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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by recalcitrant View Post
    Because the whole thing is, "boo boo hoo boo free speech everyone should have an opinion boo boo hee boo, maaaaan. why be patriotic when the government does chem trails maaaaaan 911 truth is patriotic maaaaan boo boo hoo boo"
    Is there an english translation to this? I am missing the poster's point...

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Oh it's "disrupting education" is it? Would you think differently if these kids were protesting the supposed "marxist" principles in school textbooks instead of blind nationalism and obedience to authority?

    At what point is the line drawn between "disrupting education" and standing up for your education? In that line only drawn only where you think there is legitimate protest?
    Nope. I don't think kids would stage a disruptive walk-out protest against the Marxist principles that are taught in much of school curriculum these days without somebody with whatever motives encouraging them to do that.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    In education committees that have youth involvement as a desired or required component, it is not uncommon for it to be difficult to secure involvement. Of course, many operations are during inconvenient times for youth, but all things being equal, youth engagement is certainly lacking. That's not to say that adult involvement is much to discuss either, but in terms of sheer presence, youth are not actively involved.
    Exactly. I mean it when I say my kids are clueless about school boards and political agendas of the people who serve on them, etc. I'll ask my oldest, but I'm going to venture to guess he would say his friends know nothing either, and he has a ton of them of all different sorts (jocks, eggheads, etc.).

    My kids have never pushed back on what they are given to read or study.

    My only gripe about what they have all been taught thus far is that they are basically clueless about the Constitution except for having read the copy we have here at home, and they've learned about a lot of history that's factual, including slavery and wars. They learned about the economics of slaves and the downside of slavery. They learned about the evils of Hitler and the great doings of the Allies while at the same time learning about Hiroshima & Nagasaki. I want them to learn it all - the good the bad and the ugly. I want them to grow up to be their own people based on what they know, and how they process what they know.

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Protest is one of the highest forms of patriotism in this Republic.
    Just ask John Kerry who like others on the left attributed that quote to Thomas Jefferson... Oops... That's right, Jefferson never said any such thing and it was actually said by a liberal congressman back in the 60's and presented as historical to serve their agenda.

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Just ask John Kerry who like others on the left attributed that quote to Thomas Jefferson... Oops... That's right, Jefferson never said any such thing and it was actually said by a liberal congressman back in the 60's and presented as historical to serve their agenda.
    What does this have to do with my statement that you quoted?
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    you can say whatever you want. I simply wasn't making an absolute statement that had nothing to do with your friends. It just means that there are ways to die for your country that are not for the rights and liberties of the People. Don't like it? Don't care. That's your problem, you should learn to deal with it.
    Actually it isn't my problem. It's your problem. You're the one that cannot even articulate your position, and juxtapose your own argument against itself as well as flat out misrepresent what a "absolute" is and is not.

    Again, your ignorance is your problem, not mine.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Actually it isn't my problem. It's your problem. You're the one that cannot even articulate your position, and juxtapose your own argument against itself as well as flat out misrepresent what a "absolute" is and is not.

    Again, your ignorance is your problem, not mine.
    Blah blah blah. You can die fighting for the State in ways that act against the People, that death is not the highest form of patriotism. You just don't like it, so you make ignorant statements and juvenile accusations to cover it up.

    No skin off my teeth. Grow up, deal with it, move on.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Just ask John Kerry who like others on the left attributed that quote to Thomas Jefferson... Oops... That's right, Jefferson never said any such thing and it was actually said by a liberal congressman back in the 60's and presented as historical to serve their agenda.
    Actually, Jefferson had said plenty of remarks similar and far more radical than that.
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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    It would establish a committee to regularly review texts and course plans, starting with Advanced Placement history, to make sure materials "promote citizenship, patriotism, essentials and benefits of the free-market system, respect for authority and respect for individual rights" and don't "encourage or condone civil disorder, social strike or disregard of the law."
    I see nothing at all wrong with this. schools should promote those aspects of history and while encouraging civil protests, not condone or promote the kind of lawlessness and uncivilized behavior displayed by the OCCUPY movement for example. While there are those who hate the Tea Party, you can't deny that they should be a benchmark for how a civil protest should be conducted.

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    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Actually, Jefferson had said plenty of remarks similar and far more radical than that.
    No, no he didn't... The Jefferson library confirmed that there is no such quote, or anything that even resembles such a quote from Thomas Jefferson.

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