Page 10 of 73 FirstFirst ... 891011122060 ... LastLast
Results 91 to 100 of 724

Thread: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum[W:234]

  1. #91
    Sage
    DDD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Republic of Dardania
    Last Seen
    05-06-17 @ 06:00 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    12,173

    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I'm with the students on this one. Complete bs on the part of that school board. No curriculum should be biased or censored, just straight facts.
    Yeah I agree.

    Straight facts like how the USA lead NATO campaign helped liberate Dardania should be mentioned in history books. This bias towards other things seems to overshadow what may be more useful for USA history.
    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Stats come out and always show life getting better. News makes money in making you think its not.
    The Republic of Dardania is the proper name for: http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...ification.html

  2. #92
    Sage
    Geoist's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:37 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    9,916

    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You obviously haven't studied much history or known many historians.
    I have a bachelors in history.

    But it seems you are confusing what I said. I simply stated what should be, not what is.
    "Men did not make the earth ... it is the value of the improvement only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property... Every proprietor owes to the community a ground rent for the land which he holds." -- Thomas Paine, Agrarian Justice
    http://www.wealthandwant.com/

  3. #93
    Sage
    clownboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    08-17-16 @ 10:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    26,087

    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And there are plenty of pro sources too. Schools have become "obedience" training in some light. The school systems shouldn't sugar coat anything, they should just provide the facts and the history. But claiming that they want to change educational standards to be more "Patriotic" and to "respect the authority" raises the ol' fascism warning flags. Ideally, history isn't presented in either pro or anti-America form; it should be presented as the facts.
    Think back to your HS history classes. Did the teacher just stand there in a monotone droning out fact after fact? History is not written that way, and it's not presented that way either.

  4. #94
    Sage
    clownboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    08-17-16 @ 10:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    26,087

    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I have a bachelors in history.
    That's truly frightening.

  5. #95
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,322

    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So if the conservative movement is to be patriotic, not question authority, and downplaying civil disobedience, I should not be seeing any more threads bitching about the current president or the ACA, right?
    You're taking one aspect, (that I agree is troublesome) and twisting the whole thing...Trying to squelch opposition to Obama is a hallmark of the progressive liberal today...Congrats...You're post is highly typical.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  6. #96
    Sage
    jmotivator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Virginia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:27 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    16,696

    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Would they have been rebels if they were being taught to just respect authority?
    I'm fairly certain the colonists WERE being taught to respect authority.

    Let me ask you this, are you for a "small" government? If yes, how do you think you are going to be able to achieve that without a fight? Because that ship has long sailed away. If you are for a large government, then I can see where you would applaud the efforts to downplay civil disobedience.
    I am a "small government" person. My plan of action in achieving this is by teaching kids the value of individual liberty and free market capitalism and letting nature take its course. They will see that big government is anathema to liberty and that government can only grow over liberty. It doesn't require a rebellion.

    Which is why I really don't get why conservatives have this platform of small government yet want to write history books that teach the opposite of that happening. Maybe as a conservative you can help me understand?
    "Small Government" is a colloquialism for limited federal government. A Colorado school board is not the target of "small government" conservatives. States and local school boards can write whatever curriculum they want without running afoul of "small government" conservatives. And when a "small government" conservative objects to the actions of a state or local policy, they will seek state or local redress rather than a federal law prohibiting the state or local action. There are, however, "big government" cultural conservatives who seek federal redress to local issues, but they aren't small government conservatives (even if they say so come election time).

    So, "small government" conservatives support a federalist form of government with the federal government having a limited number of specific duties (maintaining an army, defending the borders) with the bulk of government charges falling on the states to administer as they individually see fit.

    In short, think of "small government" conservatism as applying anti-monopoly sensibilities to national governance.
    Last edited by jmotivator; 09-24-14 at 01:44 PM.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

  7. #97
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Think back to your HS history classes. Did the teacher just stand there in a monotone droning out fact after fact? History is not written that way, and it's not presented that way either.
    History is facts, it's a recording of what happened...those are measured systems. Speaking factually doesn't have to be done in a boring mannerism.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  8. #98
    Sage
    jmotivator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Virginia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:27 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    16,696

    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That's truly frightening.

    It's all about the curriculum.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

  9. #99
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:18 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,322

    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And there are plenty of pro sources too. Schools have become "obedience" training in some light. The school systems shouldn't sugar coat anything, they should just provide the facts and the history. But claiming that they want to change educational standards to be more "Patriotic" and to "respect the authority" raises the ol' fascism warning flags. Ideally, history isn't presented in either pro or anti-America form; it should be presented as the facts.
    Should anyone in any country be "proud of their country" as a concept?
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  10. #100
    Kinky
    tres borrachos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    New England
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:53 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    39,234

    Re: Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Hundreds of Colorado students protest history curriculum changes that would promote patriotism | Fox News







    I'm with the students on this one. Complete bs on the part of that school board. No curriculum should be biased or censored, just straight facts.
    It's interesting, but I wish I understood their definition of the "patriotism" that they want to teach, and all the rest.

Page 10 of 73 FirstFirst ... 891011122060 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •