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    Re: DíSouza Is Spared Prison Time for Campaign Finance Violations

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You say selective, I say politically discriminatory.
    If it continues, and there's no sign of it abating, and expands in severity, one could almost say tyrannical.

    Seems almost rather authoritarian in nature. Would just have to add control / manipulation of the press.



    This'all has come to nothing, hasn't it?

    Oops. My, how positively Soviet!
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: DíSouza Is Spared Prison Time for Campaign Finance Violations

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Thieves should be punished. I can't answer that blanket question. A man who robs a 7/11 of a 6 pack of beer is a thief. Should he serve prison time? Not if it was his first offense.
    So you're saying he should serve a prison sentence after his first offense? I have no idea why you're tap dancing around saying that thievery is a crime punishable by imprisonment. This doesn't seem like it should be a particularly volatile topic.

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    Re: DíSouza Is Spared Prison Time for Campaign Finance Violations

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    which is why they should be held accountable for any illegal actions, to include incarceration if convicted
    where did we disagree?
    I suppose we didn't.

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    Re: DíSouza Is Spared Prison Time for Campaign Finance Violations

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So you're saying he should served a prison sentence after his first offense? I have no idea why you're tap dancing around such a basic issue here. This doesn't seem like it should be a particularly volatile topic.
    Who is the "he" you're referring to? You asked me:

    In principle, do you believe that thieves shouldn't face prison time

    And I said I can't answer it. The definition of "thief" is too broad.

    Do I think D'Souza should serve jail time? I don't think so, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Legally, that would be determined by whether the fraud is criminal or civil in nature.



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    Re: DíSouza Is Spared Prison Time for Campaign Finance Violations

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Who is the "he" you're referring to?
    A thief.

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    Re: DíSouza Is Spared Prison Time for Campaign Finance Violations

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Thieves should be punished. I can't answer that blanket question. A man who robs a 7/11 of a 6 pack of beer is a thief. Should he serve prison time? Not if it was his first offense.
    did he display a handgun while in the criminal act
    if so, prison, despite its being his first (known) offense
    the point being non-violent criminals should also be subjected to prison sentences
    those found guilty of committing victimless crimes should not
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: DíSouza Is Spared Prison Time for Campaign Finance Violations

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Justabubba would not be pleased.
    why would he be displeased?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: DíSouza Is Spared Prison Time for Campaign Finance Violations

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    A thief.
    Do I think the guy who steals a 6 pack of beer should go to prison? No.
    Do I think Madoff should have gone to prison? Yes.
    Do I think the guy who embezzles millions of dollars from his employer should go to prison? Yes.
    Do I think the guy who steals registration stickers from cars in a parking lot should go to prison? No.

    There is no blanket answer. From me anyway.

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    Re: DíSouza Is Spared Prison Time for Campaign Finance Violations

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    did he display a handgun while in the criminal act
    if so, prison, despite its being his first (known) offense
    the point being non-violent criminals should also be subjected to prison sentences
    those found guilty of committing victimless crimes should not
    I didn't mention a handgun.

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