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    West Coast warming linked to naturally occurring changes (Los Angeles Times)

    West Coast warming linked to naturally occurring changes - LA Times

    Natural, wind-driven climate patterns in the Pacific Ocean, such as El Niño and the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, are already known to exert a powerful influence on sea and land temperatures over years and even decades.

    This latest research shows that similar changes in atmospheric and ocean circulation can drive trends that last a century or longer, overshadowing the effects of human-generated increase in greenhouse gases, the study's authors said.

    "Changing winds appear to explain a very large fraction of the warming from year to year, decade to decade and the long-term," said study leader James Johnstone, an independent climatologist who did most of the work when he was at the University of Washington's Joint Institute for the Study of the Atmosphere and Ocean.

    When coastal wind speeds weaken, they result in less evaporation from the sea surface and unusually low pressure that alters ocean currents and causes temperatures to rise over time.
    The LA Times? Wow.

    The earth warms, it cools, back and forth, as it has for thousands upon thousands of years.

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    Re: West Coast warming linked to naturally occurring changes (Los Angeles Times)

    Weather versus Climate. Learn the difference.

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    Re: West Coast warming linked to naturally occurring changes (Los Angeles Times)

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    Weather versus Climate. Learn the difference.
    Ah yes, your ingenious little way of admitting you're wrong, without admitting you're wrong.

    Climate changes naturally. There, ya happy?

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    Re: West Coast warming linked to naturally occurring changes (Los Angeles Times)

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Ah yes, your ingenious little way of admitting you're wrong, without admitting you're wrong.

    Climate changes naturally. There, ya happy?
    As if that's the issue.

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    Re: West Coast warming linked to naturally occurring changes (Los Angeles Times)

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Ah yes, your ingenious little way of admitting you're wrong, without admitting you're wrong.

    Climate changes naturally. There, ya happy?
    No it doesn't. It has been the same since the earth formed. All that ice age nonsense is a myth. And Greenland's name just shows that those rascally Vikings had a sense of humor.

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    Re: West Coast warming linked to naturally occurring changes (Los Angeles Times)

    Quote Originally Posted by LagerHead View Post
    No it doesn't. It has been the same since the earth formed. All that ice age nonsense is a myth. And Greenland's name just shows that those rascally Vikings had a sense of humor.
    Have you ever seen the facial expressions on a liberals face when you tell them that Greenland use to be green ?

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    Re: West Coast warming linked to naturally occurring changes (Los Angeles Times)

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Have you ever seen the facial expressions on a liberals face when you tell them that Greenland use to be green ?
    No. Two heads won't fit up one ass.

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    Re: West Coast warming linked to naturally occurring changes (Los Angeles Times)

    The "consensus" is starting to fracture. From the beginning of all this, I've been consistently open to climate change hypothesis if the evidence is utterly irrefutable. Problem is, its not. The more we discover, the more we realize how little we know about all this. Prefect example is that up until recently, the consensus of how clouds are created was pretty much wrong. Doesn't disprove or prove anything except the information that had contributed to they hypothesis (cloud creation) was incorrect. This article cites another example.

    I find it downright frightening how any form of skepticism is responded to with utter demagoguery. That is no where in the ballpark for adhering to the scientific method which is essential in proving any theory. Skepticism ins't only accepted but embraced. Frankly, when politicians use rhetoric to try to scar the ever loving crap out of people, I'm instantly skeptical.

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    Re: West Coast warming linked to naturally occurring changes (Los Angeles Times)

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    West Coast warming linked to naturally occurring changes - LA Times



    The LA Times? Wow.

    The earth warms, it cools, back and forth, as it has for thousands upon thousands of years.
    Over a century or longer. Guts the warmists astrology, doesn't it?

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    Re: West Coast warming linked to naturally occurring changes (Los Angeles Times)

    Those droughts during the 1800's can only be blamed on the white mans methane farting horses and oxen.

    Causes and consequences of nineteenth century droughts in North America

    >" Between the mid and late nineteenth century three severe droughts struck North America and each had its own effect on the social, ecological and environmental state of the Plains and the West. The drought of the mid 1850s to the mid 1860s, or Civil War drought, added to the complex mix of factors leading to the near extinction of the American bison. The 1870s drought aided in creating the conditions for horrific locust swarms that devastated the West. The 1890s drought took a serious toll on settlers trying to practice dry farming on the high plains, led to a reopening of the frontier through depopulation, and to the 1902 Reclamation Act and the increasing involvement of the federal government in the settling of the West..."<
    continue -> Causes and consequences of nineteenth century droughts in North America

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