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    Re: Seattle to fine residents for not composting

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It's hard to remember to do this when you're stoned out of your gourd.
    Don't forget to recycle that gourd!!
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    Re: Seattle to fine residents for not composting

    I'm fine with Seattle doing [insert whatever lame thing it's doing now]. Not a place I've ever even thought of living because the city has always been like this. If the folks who live there want to live this way, that's their call. Local government is responsive.

    Btw, I love our waste management here. The recycle rules are a bit arcane and almost require a degree to know what can and what cannot be recycled. Other than that, the service is reliable and they actually make enough on what they do with the trash that the service cost to the consumer is low.

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    Re: Seattle to fine residents for not composting

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Sounds like a law that can be very arbitrarily and prejudicially reported. Easily abused.

    I'd like to see the first law suit where they need to prove that it was their trash with too much compostible food in it...since the evidence will be mixed in with all the other garbage.
    Right. Does this turn the garbage man into a code enforcement officer?
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    Re: Seattle to fine residents for not composting

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Right. Does this turn the garbage man into a code enforcement officer?
    I bet they havent thought that far ahead yet.
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    Re: Seattle to fine residents for not composting

    On a serious note, here in Toronto, Canada we have a very good system of garbage collection and sorting.

    1. The city provides each home with three bins - a green one for "wet" waste - a blue one for recyclables - a grey one for regular garbage. The city also provided a couple of "wet" waste containers for inside your house to collect kitchen waste and bathroom tissues, etc. Wet waste is any wet paper product, dog crap, food scraps, diapers - kids and seniors - etc.

    2. The city charges the homeowner nothing to pick up the green bin or the blue bin - green bins are relatively small, but you can get as many as you want - blue bins come in three sizes, each at no additional cost to the homeowner. The grey bin is where you pay for pick-up.

    3. Previously, the city charged for garbage pick-up via the municipal property taxes - they transferred it to the water bill so it could be a line item easily recognized. As said previously, there's no additional charge for green or blue bin pick-up. On your water bill, if you have the smallest grey (regular garbage) bin, you get a small rebate - if you have a medium grey bin, you get hit with a significant charge - if you have a large grey bin, you get hammered. In addition, for times when you may have additional regular garbage, you can buy stickers you place on regular garbage bags, $2 a sticker.

    I'm a conservative and I love it. The initial cost to the city to roll out the program was substantial, but from my perspective this is a core business of the city and it was a smart move to save money in the long term as the city moves to reduce the cost of waste collection and greatly reduces the need for landfill garbage sites. The bins are neat and sturdy and the system has been terrific - I find I have maybe 5% of my waste go to regular garbage with the vast majority going to recycling and about 25% going to wet waste.

    This is the kind of program government was and is designed for - I'm all for it.
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    Re: Seattle to fine residents for not composting

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Isn't a garbage heap, composting anyway?
    No, it's not
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    Re: Seattle to fine residents for not composting

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    I generally favor composting myself, better for the environment, but instituting a fine for not doing so? That's just ridiculous.
    I'd like to see one for not recycling. I'd wager that less than 10 percent of folks do in my area. Meanwhile the landfills keep filling up.

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    Re: Seattle to fine residents for not composting

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Isn't a garbage heap, composting anyway?
    Uhhh....no.

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