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US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria[W:354]

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EnigmaO01 said:
Newsflash: a bipartsan congressional committee found no wrong doing in you righties alleged Bengazi scandal. So give it up.
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Newsflash: They found complete lapse of protocol for Security and failure to recognize clear and present warnings. That why Hillary said she still wanted answers. Do try and keep up with what is current.

Also the lapses is known as.....Dereliction of Duty. Despite the lefts flowery language and terminology.
 
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Peter Grimm said:
The United States and Saudi Arabia created Islamic militants like Al Qaeda and, I wouldn't be shocked, ISIS.

Where do you think these guys got their guns and their military training?

The endgame is to topple Assad. We armed and trained the ISIS fighters, but now they're getting out of hand, so we're bombing them as an appeasement to the American public and also to send a message.
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Heya PG. :2wave: Got a link on we trained and armed ISIS fighters.....or did you mean those Syrian Rebels that defected?
 
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Peter Grimm said:
I'm not accusing the Americans and Saudis of anything.... they've freely admitted it. Get off your MSNBC/Fox News/CNN kick and go research the matter for yourself.

Ask yourself this.... how does a ragtag group of "whackjob Muslims" conquer Afghanistan? Conquer large swaths of Iraq and Syria? It takes a trained, organized, and well equipped army to accomplish that.

We armed and trained them to fight our geopolitical foes, the Russians, Assad, Sadaam Hussein, the Iranians. Those nations that actually pose a security risk to the way of life of the American Public.

These "whackjob muslims" are just the ones that got out of hand.... yes, they deserve blame for being fundamentalist nuts, but we also shoulder some blame for arming and training them to begin with.

The airstrikes in Syria have little to do with fighting terrorists. The geopolitical goal of the United States is to topple the Assad regime or to force it in to submission.

You might not know this, but in addition to airstrikes, we are currently arming what our administration is calling "the moderate resistance" forces in Syria to fight a ground war there. The airstrikes are nothing but air cover for these "moderate resistance forces."
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Well....You need to look who was in command positions in ISIS and whos Army they belonged to before ISIS.

There are no Moderates in Syria. Or to be trained in Saudi Arabia.
 
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Cruise missiles will be very effective against ISIS because it could hit ISIS HQ, one that HQ is built.

It could also destroy fixed ISIS radar installations and SAM batteries, assuming they ever deploy them.

Finally, cruise missiles can decimate an entire contiguous area where all ISIS members assemble, away from the population, in order to easily identify themselves as the bad guys to the international community (as opposed to disguising themselves as civilians and dispersing within population centers).
 
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US Conservative said:
Airstrikes have started, lets see if anything substantive comes of it. Knowing Obama this was all show.
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Democrats will increase their chances of retaining the Senate this year, because GOP voters will like them more since they dropped bombs.

To conservatives, dropping bombs makes one a strong leader.

If Democrats want to win back all of Congress, Obama should authorize airstrikes all over the Middle East, dropping bombs on random open-desert areas in Arab countries and Iran.
 
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FaceofBachmann said:
So is US Conservative happy or sad that Obama is bombing terrorists? It's hard for conservatives to keep their talking points straight nowadays, they've become so virulently Obamaphobic.
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Those like US Conservative are waiting. They are waiting to see how to criticize Obama for this action. Either he will bomb too much or too little. They haven't decided which way to go to get the maximum blame toward this administration.
 
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US Conservative said:
Its pretty straight forward, if Obama hadn't lost the peace in Iraq for his personal political benefit-we wouldn't be here now.

So while he needs to clean up his mess-that mess is THERE because of our incompetent president.

And we now need to clean it up.

Too complex for you?
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Oh my God man you are so off. Groups like ISIS were on the sidelines waiting for the US to leave because they know the Iraq government is made up of a bunch of b****es. That region has become so dependent of the US holding their hands. I thought you conservatives didn't like people sucking on the government t***.

Bottom line. Thanks to Bush getting rid of the "necessary evil". The US has pretty much committed ourselves to staying in Iraq permanently.
 
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US Conservative said:
When Obama came into the Presidency, Iraq was winding down-all we had to do was keep a small presence to keep the peace. Obama has always been anti-war, from his community organizing days to his 2012 campaign.
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Obama WAS keeping a small presence in Iraq to keep the peace but it exploded anyway.

Dubya's doctrine was to support a corrupt government under Maliki which made ISIS possible, I may dislike Obama but he was strictly following Dubya's policy on this.

So Dubya is as much to blame for getting the US into this mess as Obama has. If Saddam Hussein had stayed in power this wouldnt have happened. All Dubya did was replace a brutal dictator who tortured his own people with a group of sadistic terrorists who are exporting their war internationally- Bush Jr. has done more to help terrorists than any previous president and Obama is just as bad.
 
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PoS said:
Obama WAS keeping a small presence in Iraq to keep the peace but it exploded anyway.

Dubya's doctrine was to support a corrupt government under Maliki which made ISIS possible, I may dislike Obama but he was strictly following Dubya's policy on this.

So Dubya is as much to blame for getting the US into this mess as Obama has. If Saddam Hussein had stayed in power this wouldnt have happened. All Dubya did was replace a brutal dictator who tortured his own people with a group of sadistic terrorists who are exporting their war internationally- Bush Jr. has done more to help terrorists than any previous president and Obama is just as bad.
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I agree, there is plenty of blame to go around. Perhaps without President's Obama's fetish about getting rid of Assad, letting him put down the threat to his government, ISIS certainly would never have become this strong and maybe just had been a foot note in history.

How has doing away with Qaddafi worked in Libya? Libya now has many tribes fighting each other, has become a place for terrorist training camps, it is pure chaos and turmoil. Is this success? Letting the pain in the butt Saddam remain in power in Iraq, ISIS wouldn't have come charging in.

I asked this before and will ask it again and again, does anyone in Washington ever do an assessment of what may happened once we remove these dictators? What and whom may replace them.
 
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MMC said:
BO peep doesnt tell Democrats or his Joints Chiefs of Staff either.....so really as usual you aren't saying much with this BS.
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Good morning, MMC. :2wave:

I do recall that Senator Feinstin, Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, was outraged a few weeks ago that she was not told about what was going on, and publically stated so! Apparently BHO doesn't trust the high-ranking officials in his own party either! So much for transparency that was promised!
 
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GreatNews2night said:
Of course we are at war, and you know it. Anything else is semantics, and politics (which of course both parties engage in; the Democrats don't have the monopoly on it). It's kind of risible to make arguments about this. When you send a bunch of jets, Tomahawks, and bombers, and rain them over 30,000 extremists, you or Kerry or Obama or Fox News can call it whatever you want, but it's war. Now, what you are doing is that instead of rallying behind our troops and our CiC as any conservative used to do in the past, all that you want is to assign blame and find irrelevant points to criticize. Shame on you.
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People like US Conservative care more about their ideology than they do our country. They would be willing to sacrifice untold numbers of our military in order to satiate their hatred of Obama.
 
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rcart76 said:
Oh my God man you are so off. Groups like ISIS were on the sidelines waiting for the US to leave because they know the Iraq government is made up of a bunch of b****es. That region has become so dependent of the US holding their hands. I thought you conservatives didn't like people sucking on the government t***.

Bottom line. Thanks to Bush getting rid of the "necessary evil". The US has pretty much committed ourselves to staying in Iraq permanently.
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So, just so i have this straight, liberals hated Bush for going into the ME so much so that they put in a guy that was sure to abruptly pull out as fast as he could, and when that is shown to be a complete mistake, its still not his fault?

Wow! Amazing....
 
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All I can say is this latest round of Obama military aggression sure does make fools of that Danish D'Salsa movie maker idiot and the many fools who thought that farce was a good documentary, depicting Obama as a puppet sent here by radical liberals to destroy American hegemony due to his Kenyan anti-colonialism. What a herd of dumb asses.
 
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Too little too late unless we are going to continue to bomb for months or years.
 
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j-mac said:
So, just so i have this straight, liberals hated Bush for going into the ME so much so that they put in a guy that was sure to abruptly pull out as fast as he could, and when that is shown to be a complete mistake, its still not his fault?

Wow! Amazing....
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Liberals did not put Obama in the WH--Moderates and Centrists did. Liberals wanted Dennis Kucinich.
 
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Perotista said:
Hmm, I wonder what was the hurry, to bomb in Syria I mean. I suppose if the strikes were targeting ISIS headquarters, going after their leaders, good. But if it was just to show Assad we can bomb anywhere in Syria we want, bad. Seems to me we need to get that capable ground force together whoever is going to make it up. Seems we should start with that and then rolling ISIS back out of Iraq first.

But then again, if we can cut some of the heads off ISIS, that is good. I will wait and see what future reports say. This may be good or it may be bad. I still think we ought to make nice with Assad, his 250,000 man army is just the ground forces we want and need if we are not going to put any American boots on the ground. Just my opinion there.
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This may answer that question Pero. :2wave: It has to do with Khorasan/ Former AQ. Yeah and ISIS already moved its leadership and clerics out of there. 2 weeks ago they started hiding equip and tech. Including the Scuds they took from Assad. 14 attacks on ISIS with Air Strikes and 47 Tomahawks were fired. They hit ISIS' HQ to, unfortunately nobody was home.....at the time. Also 8 strikes on Khorasan.




US Syria raids also aimed at thwarting attack plot: Pentagon.....


US forces staging the first strikes against Islamic State jihadists in Syria also targeted a separate extremist group plotting an imminent attack against US and Western forces, the Pentagon said. In the air strikes against IS jihadists, the US was aided by Arab allies Bahrain, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, it said.

Eight US air strikes were also aimed at the hardline Khorasan Group which is made up of former Al-Qaeda operatives, the Pentagon said in a statement. "The United States has also taken action to disrupt the imminent attack plotting against the United States and Western interests conducted by a network of seasoned Al-Qaeda veterans -- sometimes referred to as the Khorasan Group -- who have established a safe haven in Syria to develop external attacks, construct and test improvised explosive devices and recruit Westerners to conduct operations," the statement said.....snip~

U.S. Syria raids also aimed at thwarting attack plot: Pentagon
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Too little too late unless we are going to continue to bomb for months or years.
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I doubt that many of the ISIS people who have been killed by U.S. airstrikes will agree with you.

The U.S. military can put a lot of bombs and missiles on a lot of targets in a short period of time.
 
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vesper said:
Pointing out failure of an administration is not being partisan. Especially when those in his own party are doing the same. I suggest you take off those rose colored glasses you must be wearing so you can better get a view of reality. Cheers!
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When you do it ad nauseam and it's clear you have a partisan agenda -- it is partisan. Please stop insulting mu intelligence.
 
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shrubnose said:
I doubt that many of the ISIS people who have been killed by U.S. airstrikes will agree with you.

The U.S. military can put a lot of bombs and missiles on a lot of targets in a short period of time.
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We are running out of Tomahawk missiles.
 
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Actually, I may have to take my hat off to the crazies--

After all, it is an interesting reverse psych operation when the Wingnuts manage to paint Obama as some traitorous Marxist whose real loyalty is to the Islamists, in essence forcing his hand so that Obama becomes one of the more aggressive warmongering presidents in recent history--not to mention it ties his hands domestically, the constant cries of "Soshilizm!!!" every time he tries to do something for the American people. Brilliantly Machavellian.
 
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Hamster Buddha said:
To be clear, the reason you don't want US boots on the ground, is not because you think they couldn't accomplish the job correct? And more about the fact you don't want to see any more Americans die in the Middle East yes?

Personally, I would of preferred a joint command between the Syrians, Americans and the Iraqis to coordinate a little shock and awe air campaign with an assault on ISIS' southern and eastern borders. But since Obama has decided that Assad must go, that isn't going to happened, and we've seen just how effective Iraq has been... even after billions spent and years of us training them. Hell the FSA won't be ready for at least six months. Once you eliminate the possibilities, you gotta admit, the US is looking more and more like the best option.
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It's not that I don't want Americans killed, it's that I am sick and tired of Americans getting killed in those bumb f**k Eqypt countries and so are most of the Anerican people.
 
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Peter Grimm said:
9/11 is the biggest public relations stunt in the history of the United States. "Terrorism" is often the excuse the USA uses to fight wars in the middle east.
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Oh brother. You need to go back to the conspiracy category.
 
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Perotista said:
I agree, there is plenty of blame to go around. Perhaps without President's Obama's fetish about getting rid of Assad, letting him put down the threat to his government, ISIS certainly would never have become this strong and maybe just had been a foot note in history.

How has doing away with Qaddafi worked in Libya? Libya now has many tribes fighting each other, has become a place for terrorist training camps, it is pure chaos and turmoil. Is this success? Letting the pain in the butt Saddam remain in power in Iraq, ISIS wouldn't have come charging in.

I asked this before and will ask it again and again, does anyone in Washington ever do an assessment of what may happened once we remove these dictators? What and whom may replace them.
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With the immediate cry from many that the US supports dictators?

No, no. Can't have that, the cry is raised. So I guess turmoil such as what we now have in the ME is better?

But No! It's not! Is now the cry. Well folks, you can't have it both ways.

Either you support, or at least not depose, limit and manage these dictators, or you wade in depose them and have to accept the results such as this.

You can't have it both ways. The two choices are mutually exclusive.
 
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