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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Well Obama can commence on his bombing but most experts have come out and stated his "plan" will do little. He wants to arm the Syrian rebels and train them in Saudi Arabia which will take up to a year so until then Obama will be micro managing every bomb raid just like he micro managed every drone hit in Afghanistan. From all I have gathered, the military is pretty frustrated with Obama.

    Personally my greatest concerns are over the reports that some of the American citizens that were fighting with ISIS have returned to the U.S. Sen. Mazie Hirono, a Hawaii Democrat, stood to object when Texas GOP Sen. Ted Cruz asked for 'unanimous consent' to pass his bill quickly in the Senate about a week ago. The measure would have terminated the citizenship of any American who joins or assists a terror group that's likely to attack US. Then you had Secretary of State John Kerry tell Congress that 'foreign fighters' who help ISIS should return 'in handcuffs – not through customs with their passport', well someone needs to tell Kerry that you need boots on the ground to accomplish that one. Kerry also said he has authority to cancel passports so why didn't he before these traitors got back into this country? I don't know about the rest of you, but because of the complete failure of this administration in their handling of foreign affairs and our national security, I am not feeling real safe at the moment. The report did say the FBI had these people under surveillance. That's nice but they never should have made it back into the country in the first place.

    American ISIS Fighters on U.S. Soil Are Under FBI Surveillance - NBC News
    You nailed it. These are times that require REAL leadership, and we just dont have that. The constant refrain of this administration is failure. It inspires exactly ZERO confidence in me.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Hmm, I wonder what was the hurry, to bomb in Syria I mean. I suppose if the strikes were targeting ISIS headquarters, going after their leaders, good. But if it was just to show Assad we can bomb anywhere in Syria we want, bad. Seems to me we need to get that capable ground force together whoever is going to make it up. Seems we should start with that and then rolling ISIS back out of Iraq first.

    But then again, if we can cut some of the heads off ISIS, that is good. I will wait and see what future reports say. This may be good or it may be bad. I still think we ought to make nice with Assad, his 250,000 man army is just the ground forces we want and need if we are not going to put any American boots on the ground. Just my opinion there.
    This probably has more to do with Obama's falling numbers and politics than any real desire to combat ISIS. Assad has had great difficulty for years dealing with these bad actors-its going to take more than a handful of strikes to actually deal with the issue.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

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    This probably has more to do with Obama's falling numbers and politics than any real desire to combat ISIS. Assad has had great difficulty for years dealing with these bad actors-its going to take more than a handful of strikes to actually deal with the issue.
    I think it will take a competent ground force along with air strikes. but as I said, I will wait and see.
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Hmm, I wonder what was the hurry, to bomb in Syria I mean. I suppose if the strikes were targeting ISIS headquarters, going after their leaders, good. But if it was just to show Assad we can bomb anywhere in Syria we want, bad. Seems to me we need to get that capable ground force together whoever is going to make it up. Seems we should start with that and then rolling ISIS back out of Iraq first.

    But then again, if we can cut some of the heads off ISIS, that is good. I will wait and see what future reports say. This may be good or it may be bad. I still think we ought to make nice with Assad, his 250,000 man army is just the ground forces we want and need if we are not going to put any American boots on the ground. Just my opinion there.
    And if Russia decides it's okay to bomb certain targets in America, even though we're a sovereign country just as Syria is, is that going to be okay too? What : is this? And exactly who is doing the bombing?

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Well Obama can commence on his bombing but most experts have come out and stated his "plan" will do little. He wants to arm the Syrian rebels and train them in Saudi Arabia which will take up to a year so until then Obama will be micro managing every bomb raid just like he micro managed every drone hit in Afghanistan. From all I have gathered, the military is pretty frustrated with Obama.

    Personally my greatest concerns are over the reports that some of the American citizens that were fighting with ISIS have returned to the U.S. Sen. Mazie Hirono, a Hawaii Democrat, stood to object when Texas GOP Sen. Ted Cruz asked for 'unanimous consent' to pass his bill quickly in the Senate about a week ago. The measure would have terminated the citizenship of any American who joins or assists a terror group that's likely to attack US. Then you had Secretary of State John Kerry tell Congress that 'foreign fighters' who help ISIS should return 'in handcuffs not through customs with their passport', well someone needs to tell Kerry that you need boots on the ground to accomplish that one. Kerry also said he has authority to cancel passports so why didn't he before these traitors got back into this country? I don't know about the rest of you, but because of the complete failure of this administration in their handling of foreign affairs and our national security, I am not feeling real safe at the moment. The report did say the FBI had these people under surveillance. That's nice but they never should have made it back into the country in the first place.

    American ISIS Fighters on U.S. Soil Are Under FBI Surveillance - NBC News
    So it has begun... against all advice, we're bombing a sovereign country who has stated in public that this should not be done without their consent! The UN has agreed! WTH?

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    And if Russia decides it's okay to bomb certain targets in America, even though we're a sovereign country just as Syria is, is that going to be okay too? What : is this? And exactly who is doing the bombing?
    Pol, you know as much about this as I do. I think the president's strategy can work, but it all depends on some other nations ground forces which at the present time looks like no other nation is interested. Next best bet as I said many times would be to make nice with Assad and utilizing his ground forces and air force, in coordination with him to drive ISIS out of first Syria and then have them in a pincer between Syria who can advance from the west and hopefully a reconstituted Iraqi Army from the east.

    But hey, I am just an arm chair quarterback these days.
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You nailed it. These are times that require REAL leadership, and we just dont have that. The constant refrain of this administration is failure. It inspires exactly ZERO confidence in me.
    And for six years the leadership has done things in the name of politics and not what was best for the country. The war in Iraq was unpopular. But instead of taking care of business Obama wanted a trophy by claiming he ended it. And now we all pay. Everything they have done has left us as sitting ducks. They refused to close the border where our own intelligence has said those who pose a threat to us have been entering through the porous border through Mexico. They refused to reign in the spending and the only real cuts they were willing to abide to were those to the military when we need them the most. And now our debt has become a national security issue. Even John Panetta spoke out this week and said Obama has screwed up in regard to Iraq. By announcing there will be no ground troops, he emboldens the enemy as he looks even less than a paper tiger, more like a friggen paper bunny. By not taking precautions to stop those citizens with passports that they were well aware had gone to Syria/Iraq to fight with ISIS from re-entering this country, they have put us all at even more greater risk especially when the call from the leadership of ISIS is to those members in their homelands to start killing. So here we are sitting ducks with targets on our backs. Quack Quack.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    And for six years the leadership has done things in the name of politics and not what was best for the country. The war in Iraq was unpopular. But instead of taking care of business Obama wanted a trophy by claiming he ended it. And now we all pay. Everything they have done has left us as sitting ducks. They refused to close the border where our own intelligence has said those who pose a threat to us have been entering through the porous border through Mexico. They refused to reign in the spending and the only real cuts they were willing to abide to were those to the military when we need them the most. And now our debt has become a national security issue. Even John Panetta spoke out this week and said Obama has screwed up in regard to Iraq. By announcing there will be no ground troops, he emboldens the enemy as he looks even less than a paper tiger, more like a friggen paper bunny. By not taking precautions to stop those citizens with passports that they were well aware had gone to Syria/Iraq to fight with ISIS from re-entering this country, they have put us all at even more greater risk especially when the call from the leadership of ISIS is to those members in their homelands to start killing. So here we are sitting ducks with targets on our backs. Quack Quack.
    This is just unbelievable! Sitting ducks is now what we are! I just heard a few minutes that we're bombing Syria, too - I sure hope we got their permission to do so, because we were warned by the UN....

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    And if Russia decides it's okay to bomb certain targets in America, even though we're a sovereign country just as Syria is, is that going to be okay too? What : is this? And exactly who is doing the bombing?
    The world doesn't operate according to kindergarden rules of fairness. If this troubles you then you probably don't have the stomach for international affairs.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    What happened to "in time of war, we stand behind the commander-in-chief"?

    Shame on the partisan speech above. Both Bush and Obama committed blunders in Iraq, and both contributed to the mess we have today. No need to single them out, at this point.

    What is important now is to decimate the extremists who have beheaded two Americans, countless other foreigners, and their own people, and will undoubtedly become a threat to our national interests and even our homeland (we don't want a terrorist haven there; they will end up committing 9/11-like attacks here).

    So, let's stand behind our pilots and sailors who are bombing those f....ers, and put down the partisan divisions, will you?

    Now, if we can bomb them sufficiently and several other countries in the region including several Arab states put boots on the ground, we can win this without further risking our troops. If it doesn't work, then I'm sure there will be reassessment and American boots will go in.

    For now, let's just support our CiC and our brave pilots, and hope that none of our aircraft is brought down.

    Me, I love America and put it *way* above partisan politics. Shame on all Americans who don't think like me.

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