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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    And don't forget they WANTED us out.
    No, the President wanted to leave no one there, so the offer was 3,000 troops which Maliki wasn't willing to fight with the opposition to secure. Had it been 20,000, it would have been a different story...
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Howdy AP, it has been awhile. I would agree the Turks would be the best ground forces. But Turkey does not want anything to do with the Kurds and their push for their own homeland/country.
    Good evening pero, war makes for strange bedfellows...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    don't think Assad can project forces that far from Damascus. The Kurds will do their part - they are finally getting heavy weapons.
    I still think it comes down to the Sunni's though -in Iraq for sure -Assad is Alawite (Shi'a). we need Sunni's to stand up, even if we were to put boots in.
    Yeah, I understand that. Perhaps that is why the 5 Arab countries that joined us in the strikes last night were all Sunni. Yes, the Kurds will fight. I am not sure about the Iraqi though. But from what I am hearing the Kurds do not want to roam far from their homeland. They will protect their own little portion of Iraq, but not the rest of the country. I could be wrong about that, but I doubt it. The country of Iraq means little or nothing to them. Their quest is their own country. That is what they have wanted all along.
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    In just one day? I say BS.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I agree that ISIS is a priority target, but I was responding to you claim that Syria isn't involved in hostile activity toward Israel.
    Okay, guess I misunderstood or perhaps spaced right over it. Not overtly they are not. Did Syria ever sign a peace treaty with Israel? There was quite a lot of talk about that years ago.
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Good evening pero, war makes for strange bedfellows...
    That it does. Who would have thought when it comes to ISIS the U.S., Iraq, Iran, Syria, and even Putin are pretty much all on the same side.
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    The problem is we are now starting to arm what is known or what we have been told is moderate secular Islamic rebels. Some 5,000 of them which will not be available for at least a year. But even if they were, the numbers do not add up. 5,000 against ISIS's 30,000 and growing along with our moderate secular Islamic force taking on Assad's 250,000 man force and some other rebel groups all at the same time.

    Perhaps we can get the Iraqi Army reconstituted, but if they are like what we seen so far...

    Who does that really leave? NATO isn't going to commit troops, not Turkey. The Kurds will fight, but not far from their homeland. Iraq as a nation means nothing to them, they want their own homeland, country. But our NATO ally Turkey says no way. Other Arab nations, will they provide troops? I think not.

    Perhaps we are in a corner here, where do we turn to for those troops that can push home the advantage our air strikes will give them? I see only one source at the moment. Perhaps not a nice source, perhaps even a force that would keep a tyrant in power. Perhaps we must decide which of the two evils present, ISIS and Assad we want left standing at the end of the day. I think reality with Putin and Iran backing Assad, he isn't going anywhere unless ISIS is successful in overthrowing him. It will not be our 5,000 strong moderate secular Islamic rebels.

    There are way too many questions here, way too many bad choices, way too many dictators and tyrants. But it does seem, like it or not, that is whom has to be in charge for that region to remain stable. Kings, dictators, princes, tyrants. I wonder if there is really an answer to all of this.
    you summed it all up -just for Iraq it has to be moe the Shi'a militias, or even a Shi'a army - they did go on a limited offensive the other day. Fallujah,Tikrit, I think. That's a long way to go to dislodging ISIL -even if they take those towns.

    Syria: this group is a big swing one way or the other, see what happens, but there aren't permanent allainces
    Syrian rebels deny truce deal with Islamic State - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East

    News emerged Sept. 12 that Syrian rebel factions, including the Syrian Revolutionary Front (SRF), had signed a nonaggression pact with the Islamic State (IS). The claim, originally published by Agence France-Presse (AFP) and citing the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, has been strenuously denied by Ibrahim Barakat, an SRF spokesman, in an interview with Al-Monitor.
    I wonder the same thing..

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    The number being produced for 2015 are 100. The Navy's budget was slashed severely. Even with the stockpile on hand they aren't going to last long. The Navy used 47 last night. At that rate according to your number, we have enough to last 74 1/2 days. Each missile costs over a million to produce and they don't just fly off the assembly line like boxes of Junior Mints.
    You guys talk like that's all we have in the tool box. The tomahawks are mostly used in the first phase to take out C & C to allow aircraft to be used later when it's safer.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    I didn't say they didn't want democracy. They just didn't want us occupying their country.

    U.S. Troops Are Leaving Because Iraq Doesn't Want Them There - The Atlantic

    Iraqi Prime Minister Says U.S. Forces Must Leave On Time - WSJ

    And for those who are piling on Obama for withdrawing. You do realize that A 2008 (Pre Obama) security deal between Washington and Baghdad called for all American forces to leave Iraq by 2011?

    If anything Obama extended our stay there.
    My nephew who was wounded twice in Iraq was told more than once, "Go home we don't want you here."

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    No, the President wanted to leave no one there, so the offer was 3,000 troops which Maliki wasn't willing to fight with the opposition to secure. Had it been 20,000, it would have been a different story...
    Wrong.

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