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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Thats generic answer. They aren't there for that currently-Obama said it himself.
    It doesn't matter what the President said...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If Obama meant business, he would have zapped these clowns months ago.
    one would think columns in open desert flying black flags would have been targeted..

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Good evening pg, and yes, it has. When forces are deployed there is a time period when there is no contact with anyone outside of their chain of command while they are briefed and prepare to depart on the mission...
    Thanks, AP. I had a hunch that it might be a time to look inward...

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Thanks, AP. I had a hunch that it might be a time to look inward...
    yvmw...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Hmm, perhaps we are no better than all those old colonial rulers. We decide which tyrants must and the form of government those countries will have once the tyrants are disposed of. Instead of colonialism, we call it nation building. Look at what that has got us. A Libya which is much worst off than under Khadafi, chaos and turmoil reign. Different tribes are fight each other and terrorist have moved back into Libya to use it as training grounds again.

    Instead of letting the Afghani go back to tribal rule with each tribe ruling their own little corner of Afghanistan along with the shifting alliances, we alienated over half the tribes of the Northern Alliance. All 14 tribes were once our allies, now half of them would like nothing better than to kill us. Mainly because we forced our brand of government on them instead of letting them choose their own. I do not think I have to say a thing about Iraq.
    thanks for clarity. how about this?
    are we not nation building in Syria picking sides -whom to train arm who to not?
    Bad enough we tried very hard very long to do "regime change" with the 'Assad must go' meme.

    All l I can think of now is degrade/desroy ISIL,and hope the ground forces - whomever they are - can do the job.
    Counter-terrorism. Not counter insurgency.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    one would think columns in open desert flying black flags would have been targeted..
    Oh, hell no! We crapped on the chance a long time ago. That was before Obama's numbers really went in the crapper.
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    thanks for clarity. how about this?
    are we not nation building in Syria picking sides -whom to train arm who to not?
    Bad enough we tried very hard very long to do "regime change" with the 'Assad must go' meme.


    All l I can think of now is degrade/desroy ISIL,and hope the ground forces - whomever they are - can do the job.
    Counter-terrorism. counter insurgency.
    I think the best policy is to force ISIS into a position of stalemate.
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I think the best policy is to force ISIS into a position of stalemate.
    I'm a chess player - much appreciate the term/idea. Stalemate means no caliphate, but partitioning of Iraq. I'm good with that.

    Just "check" these guys like perpetual check on the chessboard

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Syria has been subsidizing Hamas and Hezbollah for years.
    The middle east is one crazy place where little makes sense. But at this moment in time, defeating ISIS should be the number one priority. In a way it is like WWII, we made nice with Uncle Joe Stalin in order to defeat what was then our number one priority, Hitler. We have made nice with numerous scumbags over the years. But if the strategy the president laid forth is to work, we do needs boots on the ground. Air Strikes are nice, but we need a force to follow them up. Much like when Afghanistan when we first went in. The Northern Alliance on the ground providing the combat troops and pushing home the advantage our Air Power gave them. Soon the Taliban was driven out of Afghanistan with the Afghani doing the fighting.

    I think ISIS could be handled this way if we had credible boots on the ground. A force willing to fight to take advantage of what our air strikes do. Now it is plain that President Obama is not going to use American forces, so those boots on the ground will have to come from other sources. Assad is sitting on a force of approximately 250,000 men. Now they are all conscript, but conscript armies can fight if given the right leadership and incentive which our air power could supply. Iraqi military isn't about to fight, the kurds will but won't venture far from their homeland. Iraq as a country means nothing to them. So what or whom is left?

    Sometimes in situations like this, one must choose the lesser of two evils, the least evil bad guy. What is our number one priority and how given the restrictions placed upon us, can we accomplish the mission. The only way I see at the moment is to make nice with Assad and use his ground forces. My opinion anyway.
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    The middle east is one crazy place where little makes sense. But at this moment in time, defeating ISIS should be the number one priority. In a way it is like WWII, we made nice with Uncle Joe Stalin in order to defeat what was then our number one priority, Hitler. We have made nice with numerous scumbags over the years. But if the strategy the president laid forth is to work, we do needs boots on the ground. Air Strikes are nice, but we need a force to follow them up. Much like when Afghanistan when we first went in. The Northern Alliance on the ground providing the combat troops and pushing home the advantage our Air Power gave them. Soon the Taliban was driven out of Afghanistan with the Afghani doing the fighting.

    I think ISIS could be handled this way if we had credible boots on the ground. A force willing to fight to take advantage of what our air strikes do. Now it is plain that President Obama is not going to use American forces, so those boots on the ground will have to come from other sources. Assad is sitting on a force of approximately 250,000 men. Now they are all conscript, but conscript armies can fight if given the right leadership and incentive which our air power could supply. Iraqi military isn't about to fight, the kurds will but won't venture far from their homeland. Iraq as a country means nothing to them. So what or whom is left?

    Sometimes in situations like this, one must choose the lesser of two evils, the least evil bad guy. What is our number one priority and how given the restrictions placed upon us, can we accomplish the mission. The only way I see at the moment is to make nice with Assad and use his ground forces. My opinion anyway.
    Turkish regulars would stand a better chance IMO against ISIS and would probably find an unlikely ally in the Iraqi Kurds......
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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