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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Actions. They are objective. And they he is objectively incompetent. Hence the lost peace. Peace should not be squandered for political gain, and hopefully this will teach Obama a lesson-but I doubt it.
    Your knowledge of recent history is so appalling, it would be funny, were it not the crazy narrative of millions of low information conservatives.

    But in truth I think you know -- you just have bad Obamaphobic motives, which is why you have it in your sig line. A guilty conscience.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    Your knowledge of recent history is so appalling, it would be funny, were it not the crazy narrative of millions of low information conservatives.

    But in truth I think you know -- your just have bad motives, which is why you have it in your sig line. A guilty conscience.
    Its amazing you know the telos of people. Whats Obama's telos with bombing Syria?

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its amazing you know the telos of people. Whats Obama's telos with bombing Syria?
    Already answered that. But you know it. You just want to indulge your low information narrative. And I just want to point out its absurdities. Carry on.

    (By the way, telos -- wrong word)

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I see, hence his "no boots on the ground" comments. Because airstrikes win wars. And yes, we are at war-with a new enemy-ISIS.
    Ahhh trite BS from the armchair crowd... We don't need to put major conventional ground forces in Iraq to 'win'. Ever since two air dropped weapons negated the need for 1 million US causalities invading Japan there has been a shift.

    Now we can support OTHER brands of boots with air strikes and push back on ISIL. We can cut their funding which was a huge body blow to al-Queera. We don't need and this nation won't support a repeat of the Bush Bungle in the desert (nor can we afford the bill)

    What ISIL wants is to draw us back into the ME for another round of 'War on Islam'. We will never be rid of extremists until the Sunni governments in the region cut off support for them. We never learn the complete lesson, we think our military can do whatever we direct, our fighting force can suffer any loss, our economy can write more checks...

    Like drunks, until the governments of the region want peace there will be no peace. To think we as outsiders in damn near everyway possible can force 'peace' upon a repressed people ruled by a self indulging series of despots is the biggest kind of hubris imaginable... but do keep playing short game reactive checkers...

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

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    You are the one lamenting the freedoms of our Press
    I've said nothing of the kind US Conservative and we all know this diversion game of yours when you've been schooled.
    The first amendment is too important for you to impune, please dont.
    You blatantly lie diverting to the first amendment from me saying that YOUR President doesn't have to tell you his plans.
    Nor does he have to tell the blabbermouth clowns in the congress--as per the 2001 resolution .
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Well Obama can commence on his bombing but most experts have come out and stated his "plan" will do little. He wants to arm the Syrian rebels and train them in Saudi Arabia which will take up to a year so until then Obama will be micro managing every bomb raid just like he micro managed every drone hit in Afghanistan. From all I have gathered, the military is pretty frustrated with Obama.

    Personally my greatest concerns are over the reports that some of the American citizens that were fighting with ISIS have returned to the U.S. Sen. Mazie Hirono, a Hawaii Democrat, stood to object when Texas GOP Sen. Ted Cruz asked for 'unanimous consent' to pass his bill quickly in the Senate about a week ago. The measure would have terminated the citizenship of any American who joins or assists a terror group that's likely to attack US. Then you had Secretary of State John Kerry tell Congress that 'foreign fighters' who help ISIS should return 'in handcuffs – not through customs with their passport', well someone needs to tell Kerry that you need boots on the ground to accomplish that one. Kerry also said he has authority to cancel passports so why didn't he before these traitors got back into this country? I don't know about the rest of you, but because of the complete failure of this administration in their handling of foreign affairs and our national security, I am not feeling real safe at the moment. The report did say the FBI had these people under surveillance. That's nice but they never should have made it back into the country in the first place.

    American ISIS Fighters on U.S. Soil Are Under FBI Surveillance - NBC News
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria
    Sep 22, 2014, 9:30 PM ET
    By MARTHA RADDATZ, LUIS MARTINEZ and LEE FERRAN

    American airstrikes against ISIS targets are under way in Syria, according to a Pentagon official.



    "I can confirm that U.S. military and partner nation forces are undertaking military action against ISIL [ISIS] terrorists in Syria using a mix of fighter, bomber and Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles," Pentagon Press Secretary Rear Admiral John Kirby said. "Given that these operations are ongoing, we are not in a position to provide additional details at this time. The decision to conduct theses strikes was made earlier today by the U.S. Central Command commander under authorization granted him by the commander in chief. We will provide more details later as operationally appropriate."

    US Airstrikes Against ISIS Targets Under Way in Syria - ABC News
    Hmm, I wonder what was the hurry, to bomb in Syria I mean. I suppose if the strikes were targeting ISIS headquarters, going after their leaders, good. But if it was just to show Assad we can bomb anywhere in Syria we want, bad. Seems to me we need to get that capable ground force together whoever is going to make it up. Seems we should start with that and then rolling ISIS back out of Iraq first.

    But then again, if we can cut some of the heads off ISIS, that is good. I will wait and see what future reports say. This may be good or it may be bad. I still think we ought to make nice with Assad, his 250,000 man army is just the ground forces we want and need if we are not going to put any American boots on the ground. Just my opinion there.
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    Already answered that. But you know it. You just want to indulge your low information narrative. And I just want to point out its absurdities. Carry on.

    (By the way, telos -- wrong word)
    Telo=inner aim. Whats Obama's?

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Ahhh trite BS from the armchair crowd... We don't need to put major conventional ground forces in Iraq to 'win'. Ever since two air dropped weapons negated the need for 1 million US causalities invading Japan there has been a shift.

    Now we can support OTHER brands of boots with air strikes and push back on ISIL. We can cut their funding which was a huge body blow to al-Queera. We don't need and this nation won't support a repeat of the Bush Bungle in the desert (nor can we afford the bill)

    What ISIL wants is to draw us back into the ME for another round of 'War on Islam'. We will never be rid of extremists until the Sunni governments in the region cut off support for them. We never learn the complete lesson, we think our military can do whatever we direct, our fighting force can suffer any loss, our economy can write more checks...

    Like drunks, until the governments of the region want peace there will be no peace. To think we as outsiders in damn near everyway possible can force 'peace' upon a repressed people ruled by a self indulging series of despots is the biggest kind of hubris imaginable... but do keep playing short game reactive checkers...
    Im not discounting that the Iraqi military and the Kurds wont be critical here, im saying up to this point-they have not been able to deal with ISIS. This, of course is less important in Syria-since we aren't there. But as of now and barring a massively successful air campaign (doubtful-its always symbolism over substance with this president) we can't win against these guys.

    Once we establish superiority than perhaps COIN ops like drones will be valuable, but they require people on the ground to be most effective.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I've said nothing of the kind US Conservative and we all know this diversion game of yours when you've been schooled.

    You blatantly lie diverting to the first amendment from me saying that YOUR President doesn't have to tell you his plans.
    Nor does he have to tell the blabbermouth clowns in the congress--as per the 2001 resolution .
    You were saying something about FOX news, as if they are the problem. POTUS is accountable to Americans, and while he may not be required to tell us his plans-its certainly not going to help his popularity or his politics.

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