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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    What is going to happen to Israel as a result of all this? I'm fairly certain they are watching this very closely. Damascus in Syria is one of the world's oldest cities, and despite being a relatively small country, Syria has become very important to Obama for some reason, despite the fact that other ME countries are training and arming ISIS, and doing so openly, and bragging about it? Is all this a prelude to the hoped-for destruction of Israel by other ME countries? Just musing...
    I am not sure whether Syria signed a peace agree with Israel or not. But Assad and Syria has ceased all aggression towards them. You can be sure if Assad goes, so too does either the peace and you can beat whatever replaces Assad the odds are they will be very anti-Israel and perhaps gear up for another war.

    It is like I said many times, I do not think anyone in Washington has every thought what a post Assad Syria will be like. It is like everyone in Washington has tunnel vision and can only see Assad, nothing else.
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The day we switched Iraq back to the petrodollar, which was the day after we took Baghdad, we won the war. Mission accomplished.

    Everything that's happened afterward is incidental and doesn't really affect the well-being of the American People one way or the other.

    As long as Iraq is selling its oil in dollars, and as long as the terrorists aren't messing with oil production (hint... they aren't. weird, huh?), then our objectives have been accomplished.
    Sure. BTW most of Iraqs oil is in the south, and ISIS isn't there. Weird, huh?

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    If we had exited in 2007, ISSI wouldn't be ascendant now.

    The whole problem is Bush's decapitation of the Iraqi leadership and the imposition of an Iranian Shi'ite puppet who preferred to stoke sectarian conflict than lead a nation.

    Bush did the Stupid Thing by invading. Then he did the other Stupid Thing by surging. And now we got ISSI.
    You are right about one thing-ISIS would not be the top dog because Al Qaida in Iraq would be. We killed most of them.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Hate to say it but this is one reason why arabs should be the tip of the spear against ISIS-they play by arab rules which mean they fight to kill the enemy. We should be paying for the fuel and handing over all our "dumb" bomb inventory over to the arabs to use.
    I like it. Besides the Arabs know who is ISIS and who are the innocent civilians. Not that innocent civilians who get in their way would be much of a hindrance so to speak.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I like it. Besides the Arabs know who is ISIS and who are the innocent civilians. Not that innocent civilians who get in their way would be much of a hindrance so to speak.
    And sadly ISIS hides behind civilians, just like in Gaza.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    And sadly ISIS hides behind civilians, just like in Gaza.
    Very true, and let's not forget in mosques and schools and hospitals. ISIS knows how we operate and ISIS knows how to turn our humanitarian instincts against us. It is a good thing that no Hitler or Tojo has arisen today. IF we fought WWII like we been fighting our wars since Vietnam, those two would have won.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im not discounting that the Iraqi military and the Kurds wont be critical here, im saying up to this point-they have not been able to deal with ISIS. This, of course is less important in Syria-since we aren't there. But as of now and barring a massively successful air campaign (doubtful-its always symbolism over substance with this president) we can't win against these guys.

    Once we establish superiority than perhaps COIN ops like drones will be valuable, but they require people on the ground to be most effective.
    How quickly CONs forget the recent past. The Northern Alliance couldn't deal with the Taliban in Afghanistan until the USofA started a bombing campaign in support... did you forget that????

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    IF we fought WWII like we been fighting our wars since Vietnam, those two would have won.
    If we were under the same kind of threat, we would. But times have changed. The idea now is to depose tyrants and foster democracy; that costs a lot less blood and treasure.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Obama abandoned it. If Obama can't play with the cards he was dealt, as every president before him has had to do, maybe he should just quit.
    Greetings, humbolt.

    Negotiations always involve compromise - otherwise they are not called negotiations, but ultimatums! This "my way or the highway or I walk out" thinking has hurt us in Iraq, Libya (and for a while in Egypt until the people booted the MB out of power), and we are now seeing the results, and paying the price for ISIS and others gaining strength. Now I read that this "non-war" is going to go on for years and perhaps a decade? Why? Weren't we going bankrupt fast enough to suit those who are masterminding this crap?

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Because Obama is working with Arabs, Israel is going to keep quiet as a church mouse unless its directly attacked again. They have struck syria in the recent past though.
    I could be wrong, but I believe Israel would come to the aid, perhaps quietly, of Jordan should they be attacked as IS has suggested.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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