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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, US Conservative.

    I realize that ISIS is a threat, but I also wonder if Israel doesn't feel a little uncomfortable that we are partnering with countries that have openly called for their destruction. I've also noticed that Palestine has been quiet lately, too. They aren't making the headlines any more, but that could be because the media is totally focused on the current situation with the air strikes, I guess, and we just aren't hearing their complaining about Israel, even though I very much doubt they've changed their mind!
    I think Israel understands our actions, they are after all our number one ally in the region. The arabs all know this. It was however, just one attack. Hamas has been fairly quiet since the latest gaza conflict because they took such a beating, but I'd imagine they think it unwise to talk crap at a time like this.

    Israel knows its role right now is to keep quiet. Its probably a smart idea.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    That's what I'm saying.

    The enemy is practically telling America it wants them to send troops back in.

    That's gotta tell you something.

    If the enemy is goading you very strongly to do something, chances are it could be a mistake.


    I agree.

    All the deliberate publicity of beheadings, dead children, all of it what they knew would trigger rage in the west.

    What needs to be asked is why? Why do they want the US on the ground? What do we not know and they do? What do they want us distracted from?

    Is it merely that they want to kill American soldiers, or do they have a deeper, more sinister strategy?

    Considering these people waited years to take a second stab at the WTC, how cleverly they used the lack of internal security in the US, I am betting it's way more than killing Americans soldiers en masse.
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Yeah I heard, I'd guess the Syrian jet veered into Israeli airspace by accident. Turkey did the same thing last year, IIRC.
    Well, I do give BO credit on this Khorason Group and he did have to play it like this.....note he did make sure the MS Media kept their mouths shut for once.


    Last week, James Clapper, the director of national intelligence, said the Khorasan Group posed a "potential threat." But senior Obama administration officials, briefing reporters Tuesday under ground rules that they not be identified, said the intelligence was both more precise and more dire than Clapper suggested. "We were monitoring active plotting that posed an imminent threat to the United States and potentially our allies," one official said. "That was the united view of our intelligence community."

    The Khorasan Group, which consists of al-Qaida veterans who fought in Afghanistan and Pakistan, is focused on attacking the West, not the government of Syrian President Bashar Assad, Mayville said.....snip~

    U.S. officials: Terrorist group was nearing attack

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    It's not a right vs left issue.
    When it comes to how the dems flipped on Bush over Iraq it was ALL about politics.
    For example I remember when the whole surge went down in 07, and how eager dems were to cut and run (including Obama).
    I took that lesson personally-that dems would INTENTIONALLY lose a war for politics-and I dont think I will ever forget it.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    There's a danger of allowing small personal attacks to control us with reactions.
    But its not small, its systemic, its growing, and its coming for the west.
    Thats enough for me.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    That's what I'm saying.

    The enemy is practically telling America it wants them to send troops back in.

    That's gotta tell you something.

    If the enemy is goading you very strongly to do something, chances are it could be a mistake.
    I dont care what they say at this point. They can't fight the US, the arabs, Syria, the Kurds, Shiite militias, and what remains of the Iraqi military and have it end well for them. What we need is boots on the ground and persistence.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    When it comes to how the dems flipped on Bush over Iraq it was ALL about politics.
    For example I remember when the whole surge went down in 07, and how eager dems were to cut and run (including Obama).
    I took that lesson personally-that dems would INTENTIONALLY lose a war for politics-and I dont think I will ever forget it.
    The day we switched Iraq back to the petrodollar, which was the day after we took Baghdad, we won the war. Mission accomplished.

    Everything that's happened afterward is incidental and doesn't really affect the well-being of the American People one way or the other.

    As long as Iraq is selling its oil in dollars, and as long as the terrorists aren't messing with oil production (hint... they aren't. weird, huh?), then our objectives have been accomplished.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    You mean an all-out offensive? Naval and Air supported invasion of a large enough enough force to destroy, disband and disarm the enemy?

    There is the small problem of the mid terms and Obama's "peace" prize and the still lingering smell of how Al-Qaeda was put out of business in Libya and how he had solved Iraq before and that maybe this war on terror thing is not winnable, like Vietnam.

    Hard to make all that work with body bags coming back. Might have had there been some success in the past, but it's been nearly 14 years of constant warfare, your allies have been ground down, and the nation is weary of being frightened all the time.
    I mean a limited offensive, a moderate military presence, to be replaced with a permanent military presence. This isn't desert storm or the Iraq invasion. Its an eradication campaign.

    Our President does not have the stomach for definitive action.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    When it comes to how the dems flipped on Bush over Iraq it was ALL about politics.
    For example I remember when the whole surge went down in 07, and how eager dems were to cut and run (including Obama).
    I took that lesson personally-that dems would INTENTIONALLY lose a war for politics-and I dont think I will ever forget it.
    If we had exited in 2007, ISSI wouldn't be ascendant now.

    The whole problem is Bush's decapitation of the Iraqi leadership and the imposition of an Iranian Shi'ite puppet who preferred to stoke sectarian conflict than lead a nation.

    Bush did the Stupid Thing by invading. Then he did the other Stupid Thing by surging. And now we got ISSI.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    When it comes to how the dems flipped on Bush over Iraq it was ALL about politics.
    For example I remember when the whole surge went down in 07, and how eager dems were to cut and run (including Obama).
    I took that lesson personally-that dems would INTENTIONALLY lose a war for politics-and I dont think I will ever forget it.

    Even ISIS serves our interests, if you think about it. The more instability, the more fighting that goes on in the region, the more the Iraqi government needs us to provide "security."

    This gives us leverage in negotiations all over the region.

    It also, conveniently, gives us an excuse to go after our next target.... Assad in Syria and ultimately, the Iranians.

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