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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I appreciate your comments and your view is not wrong - the majority of Americans and for that matter in other western countries as well do not want to see this escalate into another massive ground war in the region. That said, the politics is on both sides - it's clear, at least to me, that Obama's public pronouncements, repeatedly, about "no combat boots on the ground" are clearly to assuage the fears expressed above. He can't possibly be doing it for other than political reasons. There is no tactical advantage, from a strategic and military point of view, in announcing to the world what you will not do.

    I think a lot of conservatives strongly support defense and military issues and institutions - not to say liberals don't, but conservatives more readily relate in that regard. As such, in my view, they are rightly concerned with pronouncements from the President that only serve political ends.
    Well stated, I agree.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    It's hard to see what these small Gulf states could have contributed other than the use of airbases there. And there are a couple bases in the outback of Jordan that could have been useful, because they are closer to the areas attacked, for launching search and rescue missions or drone strikes.

    But I keep wondering, why not Cyprus? I would think the British are right with us on all this, and they have at least one large, well-equipped airbase there. Because Cyprus is so close to the target areas, and because a good part of a flight from there would be over the ocean, where there is no threat of anti-aircraft fire, it seems very well suited as a base, especially for the fighter-bombers involved. When strikes are launched from a long range, each aircraft can carry less weight in weapons and needs other aircraft to refuel it.

    Could it be that Turkey has some influence over the British bases on Cyprus, and President Pinprick is worried about offending his Islamist pals in the Turkish government?

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And screw the consequences? SOFA agreements are just paperwork and there are over 80 of them ongoing today. It was a weak excuse for Obama in order to place the blame elsewhere when he left Iraq exposed.
    SOFA's are indeed routine. Obama needed an out in Iraq, so he could have a line in the campaign. Nothing more.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    At first glance I thought you wrote "vacationing" and were referring to Bush's penchant to fiddle while Rome burns.
    we are not talking about Obama and his golf games and his "let em eat cake" wife..

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    What is going to happen to Israel as a result of all this? I'm fairly certain they are watching this very closely. Damascus in Syria is one of the world's oldest cities, and despite being a relatively small country, Syria has become very important to Obama for some reason, despite the fact that other ME countries are training and arming ISIS, and doing so openly, and bragging about it? Is all this a prelude to the hoped-for destruction of Israel by other ME countries? Just musing...
    Because Obama is working with Arabs, Israel is going to keep quiet as a church mouse unless its directly attacked again. They have struck syria in the recent past though.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    But kept that on the downlow with his attempts at budgeting.
    You might want to be careful about using that colloquialism in connection with Mr. Obama.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

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    Cheap political points? By pulling the troops from a stable Iraq thousands more lives will be lost, billions more spent, and you are concerned about Barrack Obama getting some criticism for this decision??
    This is the absolute truth.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That's the point, and why the troops should have stayed!

    It had calmed down by the time the troops were pulled out and it was all containable. The military and the CIA originally wanted 70,000 troops to remain but this was continually whittled down by Obama until they were all removed. Now no one will mention the 'stable' word, or what an 'achievement' Iraq is.

    Who said Iraq was a "thriving democracy"? Lose the hyperbole or use quotes. It was a democracy but, like most burgeoning democracies, need time and custom and rule of law to take hold.

    That's when leadership is required so that the situation can be explained to the less politically aware. Megyn Kelly just shared a 2007 George Bush Iraq speech, and itís going VIRAL |
    Nailed it.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    It was soaring before the attack-they forcibly conscript those they capture. If they dont agree they can be literally crucified.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    SOFA's are indeed routine. Obama needed an out in Iraq, so he could have a line in the campaign. Nothing more.
    See, I told you your sig line was an indication of a guilty conscience. Your mindreading about Obama's motives is a direct line into how conservatives do politics.

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