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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its pretty straight forward, if Obama hadn't lost the peace in Iraq for his personal political benefit-we wouldn't be here now.

    So while he needs to clean up his mess-that mess is THERE because of our incompetent president.
    Unfortunately dumbya's mess in Iraq may never cleaned up, much like the GOP-backed oil spill in the Gulf.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I would have no problem with it.....as I didn't with NAM. I volunteered and was never drafted. Course now they have this issue about age. Moreover growing up here where I did. One thing is for certain. I was warring a long time before I ever joined Uncle Sam's Gang.

    Another thing.....I would be in the thick of it up on the front.....if not behind enemy lines, and not hiding behind anyone else. Rangers Lead the Way. Sua Sponte.
    Wow! You're a real GI Joe, aren't you?

    Sorry, I started laughing when I saw that you volunteered for Viet Nam. Just to let you know, I would love for you to be thick of it, if that is what makes you happy.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Unfortunately dumbya's mess in Iraq may never cleaned up, much like the GOP-backed oil spill in the Gulf.
    This is getting too weird now.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Wow! You're a real GI Joe, aren't you?

    Sorry, I started laughing when I saw that you volunteered for Viet Nam. Just to let you know, I would love for you to be thick of it, if that is what makes you happy.


    Nah....I did my time.

    Oh, did you start laughing when you saw I volunteered. Yeah I would step up for Country- Even Under BO!

    But you didn't think I included you in that.....did you?
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Where did you get the idea that the people of Iraq didn't want a democracy?
    I didn't say they didn't want democracy. They just didn't want us occupying their country.

    U.S. Troops Are Leaving Because Iraq Doesn't Want Them There - The Atlantic

    Iraqi Prime Minister Says U.S. Forces Must Leave On Time - WSJ

    And for those who are piling on Obama for withdrawing. You do realize that A 2008 (Pre Obama) security deal between Washington and Baghdad called for all American forces to leave Iraq by 2011?

    If anything Obama extended our stay there.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Does everyone believe that anytime some group around the world, hideously, kills an American or even commits a criminal act of bombing our buildings that we should retaliate with the entire US Military, and does that really solve the problem?

    We don't seem to know 'what to do' or 'when to do it' for an effective outcome anymore?

    We started the mess in the ME and destabilized the area, but will we ever get it back to some semblance of sane stability?
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    They are marginalized-ISIS is not. I just said a word of prayer for our men and women over hostile territory.
    Apparently you havent heard of Golden Dawn, the Sweedish Democrats, BNP.


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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Does everyone believe that anytime some group around the world, hideously, kills an American or even commits a criminal act of bombing our buildings that we should retaliate with the entire US Military, and does that really solve the problem?

    We don't seem to 'what to do' or 'when to do it' for an effective outcome anymore?

    We started the mess in the ME and destabilized the area, but will we ever get it back to some semblance of sane stability?
    The ME was sane and stable at some point? When was that?

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    Bush invades Iraq under false pretenses. Chaos ensues. Iran - part of the Evil Empire Bush identifies -- becomes the dominate hegemon of the region, sparking armed sectarian conflicts between conflicting religious sects that had simmered under Saddam but were manageable. Syria gets pulled into the mess due to its close ties to Saddam and Iraq.

    See, that isn't hard to follow.
    You really, really, really don't know what you are talking about. The Syrian civil war was sparked during the "Islamic Spring" which was brutally crushed by the Assad regime. Militants flocked to Syria to help overthrow Assad. The US, under the leadership of Barack Obama, tacitly supported the Islamic militants in Syria over Assad under the mistaken assumption that they would be allied to the US due to US support. This has been the standard Achilles heel of Obama throughout his presidency in his ME policy. His "we'll offer a hand if you unclench your fist" plays precisely to the Islamic militants in Syria (and Libya and Egypt) who play along until they have built a strong enough army to break loose and start expanding their area of control.

    This con game has been going on for a few years now: Islamic Militants melt into a group of "student uprising", the resident dictator stomps "student uprising", Obama comes to the rescue and boots out the dictator, "student uprising" is over powered by Islamic militants.

    This didn't happen in Iraq because we hung around in Iraq to combat this Islamic uprising after Saddam fell. It came from Syria because Obama doesn't know what the hell he is doing and backed the Islamic Militants in Syria.

    General rule of thumb that Obama fails to understand: In the Middle East you either back the dictator or you put boots on the ground and overthrow him yourself and maintain he peace. Helping overthrow the dictator and not putting boots on the ground to maintain the peace gets you AQ controlling Libya and ISIS controlling half of Iraq and Syria.
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    The ME was sane and stable at some point? When was that?
    It wasn't anything like it is now since the Iraq War and Arab Spring, unless we're looking at two different world's?
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