Page 38 of 81 FirstFirst ... 28363738394048 ... LastLast
Results 371 to 380 of 807

Thread: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria[W:354]

  1. #371
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    And they were stupid to say that, just as it's stupid for conservatives to say that bush left behind a peaceful Iraq, he didn't, nobody did and nobody will until a whole lotta bodies have been piled on.
    Obama was not stupid to say that because it was true. Iraq was stable and a democracy was in place. Where Obama was stupid was not following the advice of the military and previous administration in thinking Iraq would stay that way once the troops had left. Biden was stupid by trying to claim credit for a stable Iraq.
    The question is how many American, Canadian, British and Australian bodies do we really want as part of that pile, since they won't do any good.
    They will only do good if there is a do-over, gaining back what had previously been won, but this time having troops remain in place, just as has been done in South Korea and other military bases throughout the world.

  2. #372
    Sage
    polgara's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    NE Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:52 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    18,357

    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Sure we will. The world is not a nice place and the middle east is all screwed up with shifting alliances depending on the time of day. I think if you want ISIS to be defeated, Assad has to be a major player. I think we must decide which one we want defeated and which one we want left standing. I would choose Assad, no comparison between the two. In my mind you can't do away with both and if one could, what becomes of Syria, who ends up ruling that nation? Will Syria become another Libya, total chaos and turmoil and a breeding ground for terrorism? Will it become an Islamic Republic with a goal of exporting their religion and killing all who will not convert? IS there really moderate secular Islamist that can be trusted in the Rebels that are trying to overthrow Assad?

    The questions keep coming.
    What is going to happen to Israel as a result of all this? I'm fairly certain they are watching this very closely. Damascus in Syria is one of the world's oldest cities, and despite being a relatively small country, Syria has become very important to Obama for some reason, despite the fact that other ME countries are training and arming ISIS, and doing so openly, and bragging about it? Is all this a prelude to the hoped-for destruction of Israel by other ME countries? Just musing...

  3. #373
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    [QUOTE]
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    It is quite disturbing how eager many in this thread are to put their countries sons and daughters into harms way to score cheap political points against Obama.
    Cheap political points? By pulling the troops from a stable Iraq thousands more lives will be lost, billions more spent, and you are concerned about Barrack Obama getting some criticism for this decision??

  4. #374
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Last Seen
    04-07-15 @ 09:18 PM
    Lean
    Socialist
    Posts
    1,018

    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    So the point is the Obama underestimated the Bush/Cheney screw up? Yep. He should have said Bush screwed up the Middle East so much that we won't be able to fix it for decades. Thanks Bush.

  5. #375
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    It only takes the mention of Obama to set off patho-conservatives and their rants about Benghazi. You posted a whole bloody page of rightwing talking points. Conservatives and their obsessions.


    Well, I can't let someone make **** up like that. Oh, the link I gave was to the State Dept.

    Reading is Fundamental.

  6. #376
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Likely, yes, but what was the last war we got into militarily? Probably WW II.
    And the Allies got into that to win. No nonsensical 'withdrawal dates' were discussed, or asked for. They also didn't openly discuss their plans with the enemy.

  7. #377
    Dungeon Master
    Somewhere in Babylon
    Jetboogieman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Somewhere in Babylon...
    Last Seen
    @
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    24,340
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Obama was not stupid to say that because it was true. Iraq was stable and a democracy was in place. Where Obama was stupid was not following the advice of the military and previous administration in thinking Iraq would stay that way once the troops had left. Biden was stupid by trying to claim credit for a stable Iraq.
    It was not true in any way, shape or form.

    Democracy doesn't just spring up overnight, you don't just hold a couple of elections and declare we now have democracy.

    Violence in Iraq was still rife, bombs, killings, ethnic violence still rampant in 2008 and 2011.

    This idea that somehow Iraq was a thriving democracy and it was all ruined by lack of US troops is folly.

    The will of the people was that the troops leave Iraq.

    So you can blame Obama all you want, but the fact of the matter is, he did what people wanted him to do because we shouldn't have ****ing been there in the first place.

    And I also applaud Chretien and Martin for not getting us involved in that bungled disaster of a war.

  8. #378
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    So the point is the Obama underestimated the Bush/Cheney screw up? Yep. He should have said Bush screwed up the Middle East so much that we won't be able to fix it for decades. Thanks Bush.
    You needn't encourage Barrack Obama to lie. He does all right on his own.

  9. #379
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And the Allies got into that to win. No nonsensical 'withdrawal dates' were discussed, or asked for. They also didn't openly discuss their plans with the enemy.
    Sure didn't, but we did declare war and have a plan. That's the nice thing about a Declaration of War, it forces the government to plan because while you do not discuss "dates" or whatever, a declaration would need a surrender to conclude and thus you have to actually sit down and figure out how to get to end game.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  10. #380
    Slayer of the DP Newsbot
    danarhea's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:21 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    39,764

    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I see, hence his "no boots on the ground" comments. Because airstrikes win wars.

    And yes, we are at war-with a new enemy-ISIS.
    No, air strikes are not going to win wars, but America should not be a babysitter either. Either Middle Eastern nations step up to the plate and start fighting, instead of relying on America to do it all for them, or they are going to get the government they deserve.
    The ghost of Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2016

Page 38 of 81 FirstFirst ... 28363738394048 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •