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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Fine but my comparison was to islamists, not sectarin, or nationalist, etc.
    If the CIA gave weapons and training to the craziest Americans and set them loose, do you think we'd be talking about radical Christians the same way we talk about radical islamists?

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Since when is having an AK-47 considered 'well equipped'?
    Any other weapons that they hold have been gained by capturing Syrian Army outposts and nothing more.
    I think theres more. ISIS has deep pockets. They have some of the same stuff (modern guided anti tank missles, newest rpg's) used by Hamas in Israel. And then there is what they have plundered in Iraq. Since they defacto control the syria-iraq border those weapons could be anywhere.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    That said, I wish we still had Saddam around to deal with ISIS...
    ISIS exists at its present strength and holding territory because of the vacuum created with the US withdrawal. They were able to move into and out of Syria as gains were made by Assad, and they figured out they could go wild with the place.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Lol...touchy?

    About what? What a bunch of nameless, faceless people on a chat forum think? You could all be bright 10 year olds for all I know. The day I get 'touchy' about what someone says on here is the day I should stop posting here.


    AS for the rest...you post is noted.

    Though it is still woefully short of details.

    Now many planes did the other countries commit? What type of planes (bombers or just support aircraft)? On what targets? How much AA assets were defending these targets (in other words - were they tough targets or easy ones)?

    Come on man, surely you know government-speak' by now...make a general statement that sounds rosy but give few details. And when asked for details, vclaim 'national security' or 'military secrecy' does not allow more details to be released.

    That report said basically nothing.


    And I will say again, ISIS is a very small army with NO air force. I am sure the entire Middle East could take it out in a few weeks if it wanted to.

    So why don't they?

    The answer is obvious - they do not want to badly enough OR why should they when they know America will just do it for them.


    We are done here, for now.


    Good day.
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    As far as everything else, I guess we'll know later one when the US does there after action press briefings. I have to admit though, using F22 Raptors, the world's first 5th generation fighter and perhaps the best fighter in the world, does seem like a bit of overkill against a group like ISIS.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    If the CIA gave weapons and training to the craziest Americans and set them loose, do you think we'd be talking about radical Christians the same way we talk about radical islamists?
    Not really, because I dont see most even "radical" Christians doing this. They are doing this to their own people-they dont need the US to hate. These are bad guys, at some point you just have to say enough of the BS and take care of things.

    It used to be our President was crucial at times like these. Now not so much.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    ISIS exists at its present strength and holding territory because of the vacuum created with the US withdrawal. They were able to move into and out of Syria as gains were made by Assad, and they figured out they could go wild with the place.
    All I'm saying is that if Saddam were still in power, we're not having the same discussion as far as ISIS is concerned. At the very least, they wouldn't of rolled through Sunni held territory with little to no resistance as it wouldn't be a Shia government in power.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Seeing that a number of Arab states, including Qatar participated, I have to give a lot of credit to Secretary of State Kerry. None of these states was onboard for military action during the President's speech. UAE, Bahrain, and Saudi Arabia are core Arab allies. Jordan is a strategic ally and had recently been threatened by ISIS. The one surprise for a lack of participation is Kuwait.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    If the CIA gave weapons and training to the craziest Americans and set them loose, do you think we'd be talking about radical Christians the same way we talk about radical islamists?
    You do realize that the US wasn't giving the go ahead to support rebels when the Civil War started right? In fact, that was a pretty big criticism of Obama is that he's been very slow in arming the rebels.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    All I'm saying is that if Saddam were still in power, we're not having the same discussion as far as ISIS is concerned. At the very least, they wouldn't of rolled through Sunni held territory with little to no resistance as it wouldn't be a Shia government in power.
    Maybe you are right, we wont ever know. But what we DO know is we have a sitting President who's made a long series of bad decisions to get us here. He lost the Peace, and clearly is STILL making very stubborn and piss-poor plans.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Seeing that a number of Arab states, including Qatar participated, I have to give a lot of credit to Secretary of State Kerry. None of these states was onboard for military action during the President's speech. UAE, Bahrain, and Saudi Arabia are core Arab allies. Jordan is a strategic ally and had recently been threatened by ISIS. The one surprise for a lack of participation is Kuwait.
    I guess, but I don't really know what role Kuwait could sever that the other countries couldn't fill already. Perhaps just a case of not needing the help?

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