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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You assume that ISIS is rational.
    Since when did ISIS become Russia? Reading comphrehension not your suit?

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Not really.
    Well you're right. Our congress critters are off limits.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Whatever, ....read any good comic books lately?
    No I don't read fiction. Here's something from the NY Times though.

    I have read excerpts from many of [the still-classified Presidential Daily Briefs] … and come to an inescapable conclusion: the administration’s reaction to what Mr. Bush was told in the weeks before that infamous briefing reflected significantly more negligence than has been disclosed. In other words, the Aug. 6 document, for all of the controversy it provoked, is not nearly as shocking as the briefs that came before it. The direct warnings to Mr. Bush about the possibility of a Qaeda attack began in the spring of 2001. By May 1, the Central Intelligence Agency told the White House of a report that “a group presently in the United States” was planning a terrorist operation. Weeks later, on June 22, the daily brief reported that Qaeda strikes could be “imminent,” although intelligence suggested the time frame was flexible.

    But some in the administration considered the warning to be just bluster. An intelligence official and a member of the Bush administration both told me in interviews that the neoconservative leaders who had recently assumed power at the Pentagon were warning the White House that the C.I.A. had been fooled; according to this theory, Bin Laden was merely pretending to be planning an attack to distract the administration from Saddam Hussein, whom the neoconservatives saw as a greater threat. Intelligence officials, these sources said, protested that the idea of Bin Laden, an Islamic fundamentalist, conspiring with Mr. Hussein, an Iraqi secularist, was ridiculous, but the neoconservatives’ suspicions were nevertheless carrying the day.

    In response, the C.I.A. prepared an analysis that all but pleaded with the White House to accept that the danger from Bin Laden was real.

    “The U.S. is not the target of a disinformation campaign by Usama Bin Laden,” the daily brief of June 29 read, using the government’s transliteration of Bin Laden’s first name. Going on for more than a page, the document recited much of the evidence ….

    And the C.I.A. repeated the warnings in the briefs that followed.

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    Yet, the White House failed to take significant action. Officials at the Counterterrorism Center of the C.I.A. grew apoplectic. On July 9, at a meeting of the counterterrorism group, one official suggested that the staff put in for a transfer so that somebody else would be responsible when the attack took place, two people who were there told me in interviews. The suggestion was batted down, they said, because there would be no time to train anyone else.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/op...ngs.html?_r=2&

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Also not really. They aren't great but they aren't invading nations, killing civilians who wont join them, and threatening to kill civilians here, are they?

    I would take an arab dictator over islamists any day.
    They sponsor terrorists, have a brutal secret police, had no problem gassing and bombing civilians, etc. etc. Not really on Santa's good list either.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    O

    We never lost the War. The Iraqi leadership dropped the ball AFTER we left. Do tou actually believe the stuff you make up?
    It was Obama's responsibility-his own generals, as well as Iraq warned him-and he left anyway-he wanted the headline for the electios.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I suppose you have a link to that?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/op...ngs.html?_r=2&

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    I don't have to think about it. I did it for 6 years. How about you?
    I think all the time. Thanks for your service, btw.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Yes, that attack occurred just months after President Bush took residency at the White House, delayed because of the shenanigans of Al Gore and his administration was still relying on the "intelligence team" of the Clinton administration. The same intelligence team that had been in place for eight forking years. Guess they missed a few things.
    Just when I thought it wouldn't get ant deeper...

    Where's that darn shovel when you need it?

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    CNN is reporting that there are several Arab countries, including Jordan (who's government officials are confirming as much right now) were involved in airstrikes.
    I heard that our tomahawks struck from the Red Sea-if thats true they overflew Jordan.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I heard that our tomahawks struck from the Red Sea-if thats true they overflew Jordan.
    This was an actual Jordanian Govt Official that went on to CNN to confirm that their jets participated in strikes inside Syria, and were just now returning. At the very least, I'm glad to see that more countries are involved outside of the "white variety". Gives the campaign a less "crusadey" vibe if you know what I mean...

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