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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Actually your explanation is too simplistic and partisan. The American people wanted out and it was a campaign promise to get us out and partially why he was elected. The former president already had the timeline set up. We trained the Iraqis and did our best to help them get their act together for over a decade. It's not Obama's fault Al Maliki disenfranchised the sunnies and kurds and some of these people don't have the courage to fight for their country.
    America didn't want out to lose a war, and then come back in to have to fight it again. Obama gambled he'd be out before Iraq blew up again-or at least past the 2012 election. He lost, and so did the US.

    Now, to make it worse we have to go back in-so while I hear lefties in this thread saying we are back in because of politics (public opinion) they also say we left because Americans demanded it. Please-the facts dont support that.

    Stop making excuses for failure, we can see right thought it.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    The only mental savages are the ones playing politics with war.
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    We're bombing someone without their consent? Are we savages??
    Let's hear some more historical revision on Ben--gha--zi, etc .
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Not totally true. The speed of which the ISIS blitzkrieg manifested itself took a lot of experts by surprise.
    Again, not true. We knew about ISIS well over a year ago in Iraq. Our media was finally drug kicking and screaming about it when they captured Mosul in January. 9 months ago-and the President knew BEFORE that how bad things were. He knew about them last year when he was sabre rattling against Assad and now he's eating his hat.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Well blow me down. I'm impressed. Most righties are taking this as an opportunity to once again diss the president and **** the pilots to score political points.
    Some of our attack aircraft flew over 4K miles to attack in stealth conditions. Think of all the support that has to go into that-and they appear to have pulled it off.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    America didn't want out to lose a war, and then come back in to have to fight it again.
    Yes the American people did--stop lying already.
    Obama gambled he'd be out before Iraq blew up again-or at least past the 2012 election. He lost, and so did the US.
    Bull**** revision.
    Now, to make it worse we have to go back in-so while I hear lefties in this thread saying we are back in because of politics (public opinion) they also say we left because Americans demanded it. Please-the facts dont support that.
    incompetent.
    Stop making excuses for failure, we can see right thought it.
    Failure began in February of 2001--someone as smart as you should know that .
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Some of our attack aircraft flew over 4K miles to attack in stealth conditions.
    Think of all the support that has to go into that-and they appear to have pulled it off.
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    How many of our brave men and women would be dead and maimed with your plan to have perpetual war from 2010, ala McCain and Cheney ?
    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Again, not true. We knew about ISIS well over a year ago in Iraq. Our media was finally drug kicking and screaming about it when they captured Mosul in January. 9 months ago-and the President knew BEFORE that how bad things were. He knew about them last year when he was sabre rattling against Assad and now he's eating his hat.
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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    To get votes? How about the American people wanted out of that sheethole?

    And the bs about him solely being a community advisor has been debunked years ago. It makes you look ignorant and petty.

    Leaving a few troops behind wouldn't have stopped the momentum of ISIS. It was Al Maliki's blundering that disenfranchised the sunnies that made it inevitable along with the collapse of Syria and of course the destabilization we created when we took out Saddam. We would have come to this regardless if we had left some troops behind.
    Please read closer, I never said he was "only" a community organizer, I said he was anti war even back then.

    As for what the American people want-they want a leader who can make a case and then they can decide how they feel about it.

    Obama said Iraq was safe and stable, and repeated that during his reelection-but apparently that wasn't true. If he knew better-he should have made that case-if he didn't-he was incompetent.

    See how this works?



    "all of [the Iraq war] has led to this moment of success"

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatNews2night View Post
    OK. I'm a fool, and incapable of logical thinking. Sure. Thank you for the personal attacks. Now go back to hating the president regardless of what he does or doesn't do (yep, there is a lot of logical thinking in that, right?!?!? Such as, let's deny him authorization to bomb Syria, and then complain that he isn't doing enough against Syria; yeah, right, that's very logical!). Me, I want those extremists decimated, and I'll support any action that will get them killed.

    I won't be surprised, if he sends troops to the ground, if the Right immediately switches to condemning it too.

    The thing is:

    Obama does A = he is wrong.
    Obama does the opposite of A = he is wrong.
    Obama refrains from doing either A or the opposite of A = he is wrong.

    Yep, very logical.

    It gets very tiresome.
    This has nothing to do with personally hating a president but everything to do with incompetence to the point it has put us all at danger here in our own country due to his very policies.
    To point out your use of the word "patriot " used not at all as it is defined is not a personal attack but a logical analysis.
    To point out to support someone means you condone their actions means you agree with them is not a personal attack. It may put you between a rock and a hard place in justifying your own logic but it wasn't a personal attack.

    If you haven't taken notice, it is those military experts he should be listening to that are currently frustrated with Obama because he will not allow them to do what they ( with all their expertise) have proposed to stop this army of 33,000 asswipes and growing that want to destroy Western civilization. Instead he wants to micro manage every air strike. Please ask yourself what's wrong with this picture? Hell, even his own former Defense Secretary, Leon Panetta, came out this week and said Obama has screwed up. It isn't just the right. There is a reason any Democrat up for re-election doesn't want Obama around them.

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    Re: US Airstrikes Under Way in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Cool aid is bombing syria as you read.
    I bet those bastards that were mocking us, beheading Americans, and raping and butchering women and children are now shaking in their boots. Nothing like a tomahawk missile or 500 lb. bomb to get your attention. I'll bet they don't think it's cool aid.

    People make light of air strikes but if rhey only knew what it's like to be the target of them they would think differently.

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