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    Re: Security breached: Intruder gets into White House

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The dem party and US system of government is not dependent on an individual. It's not like "oh, no, the king is dead, whatever will we do". Think Biden would be different? Assassins could kill there way to a republican, if that's possible, and little would change.
    How does this even relate to OV's post?
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    Re: Security breached: Intruder gets into White House

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    How does this even relate to OV's post?
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    Re: Security breached: Intruder gets into White House

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The dem party and US government is not dependent on an individual. It's not like "oh, no, the king is dead, whatever will we do". Think Biden would be different? Assassins could kill there way to a republican, if that's possible, and little would change.
    This issue isn't Democrat or Republican contrary to how yourself, apdst and others are trying to frame it. The issue is one person taking matters into their own hands for the rest of the country. And while I'm sure apdst doesn't wish the President dead (i.e., "If I didn't know better..."), the tenor of his post and those of some others who are so against this man can easily lead one to believe that deep down they secretly wish harm to come to him. I'll use my exchange w/apdst to illustrate (not to pick on him, but just to illustrate my point and because our dialog has become the sub-text of this tread):

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    It most certainly is a "WTF moment"! This is NOT suppose to happen. I can understand some crazy getting through security at a public speaking event or rally of some kind, but not at the White House. Totally unacceptable.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No security system is 100% inpenetrable.
    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    If I didn't know better, I'd say you're happy the breech occurred but disappointed the guy didn't reach his target.
    Was he being matter of fact? Yes, but he was also being rather glib about the ordeal (at least with this response). So, yeah, it's real easy for me to get the impression that some people could care less if harm would come to the President. I would care not because I'm Black or because I'm a Moderate/Center-Left Democrat, but because I'm an American...period. Doesn't matter my race, doesn't matter my political affiliation. It's because this is my President every bit as much as all the others who came before him during my lifetime from JFK to present-day. I may not have liked some of their policies, but I've never lost sight of the fact that the man in the White House was the person the people and the Electorate choose to lead the country....2000 presidential election notwithstanding. And I've never wished harm to come to any of them not even when Reagan was shot. I prayed for the man's recovery and wished shift justice for the one who shot him. But I never wished any of them dead (...just that the term for one to be over quickly even though I voted for him the 2nd time around).
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    Re: Security breached: Intruder gets into White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Regardless of who is president, this kind of performance by the Secret Service is totally unacceptable. I read somewhere that one officer showed restraint in not shooting the intruder. I don't like to see anyone killed, but perhaps this officer should have used deadly force in this instance. Of course, the intruder shouldn't have gotten anywhere near the White House in the first place.
    Here's the thing. They knew this individual from one report I read, and knew he had mental issues but didn't think he was dangerous. It's known he was an 18 year vet and had deployed three times to Iraq. Perhaps being that most USSS personel are former military, and the fact they felt he was harmless, is why they hesitated to use deadly force.
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    Re: Security breached: Intruder gets into White House

    Quote Originally Posted by danno0407s4 View Post
    I was hoping this guy was part of a plan to Take out Obama!

    Wow that's really low.

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    Re: Security breached: Intruder gets into White House

    Quote Originally Posted by danno0407s4 View Post
    I was hoping this guy was part of a plan to Take out Obama!
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    Re: Security breached: Intruder gets into White House

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    You wish.
    Ah, I see you have refused to accept the correction and remain in denial. That is, of course, your choice.
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    Re: Security breached: Intruder gets into White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Cephus,

    You were saying...?
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    Re: Security breached: Intruder gets into White House

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No security system is 100% inpenetrable.
    That excuse might be remotely acceptable for an incredibly detailed, well financed and sophisticated attempt to intrude by an ultra-well trained force.

    But a guy jumping over a fence and just running through the front door?

    Come on now.

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    Re: Security breached: Intruder gets into White House

    This reminds me - though it was on a MUCH larger scale - of that teenage pilot that landed a rented Cessna in Red Square back during the Cold War.

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