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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Would a link be too much to ask? Or are you talking out of your partisan ass again?
    Out of curiosity, what is the point of a link? Are people now supposed to believe what they read on the internet?

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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    You're assuming again. Not all IBEW members work in construction. There are a multitude of jobs in the union that are NOT construction.
    That's correct, not all IBEW members work construction. Those who do, find themselves in between jobs a lot.

    Installing solar panels would fall under construction.
    The contractor would be required to be a licenese electrical contractor.

    Most electrical contractors who employ full time electricians are not union.

    Your large electrical contractors who bid on large contracts tend have union electricians that are assigned from the IBEW union local. Once the contract/job is completed those electricians are usually laid off and they go back to the union hall looking for another job.

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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Yes, if there are unfilled positions in coal mines. No if, like me, you believe that job training is not an appropriate role for the federal government. What is the point of people training for jobs that do not exist?
    How do you know they don't exist?

    We spend a lot more money giving it away to foreign countries like Israel. Why not pump it into the economy here? It's not like it's flushed down the toilet like it is in Iraq or Afghanistan.

    Would you have been against the CCC during the Great Depression too?

    Btw I will be running all my utilities on solar and wind in the near future much to the chagrine of my power company. And it does take some serious electrical skills to pull it off safely and correctly. Fortunately I get help from a family member that has those skills and knowledge.

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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That's correct, not all IBEW members work construction.
    I see you back tracked a little. LOL

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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    I see you back tracked a little. LOL
    And I bet more than 3% of IBEW union members are Republicans or conservative independents.

    But 97% of all IBEW political contributions goes to the Democrats.

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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Obama's holding up his part of the deal, paying back the IBEW for help putting him in the White House.

    That's all it is.

    I hope this doesn't dumb down America's electricians. Every four years (Presidental election time) the IBEW tries to increase it's union membership by fast tracking unqualified apprentice electricians as journeymen and you have these new journeymen electricians showing up on job sites who don't know how to pull wire.
    You know, I find it very interesting that the people who scream the loudest about how bad the country needs jobs are also the same people who complain when any initiative is fostered to spur job growth.

    I get that such people don't like unions, but unless other industries are willing to move forward with initiatives to create new jobs especially where opening up new industries is concerned, I don't have a problem with the government taking the lead in partnership with unions to train our veterans in growth industries at good pay.
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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That's correct, not all IBEW members work construction. Those who do, find themselves in between jobs a lot.

    Installing solar panels would fall under construction.
    The contractor would be required to be a licenese electrical contractor.

    Most electrical contractors who employ full time electricians are not union.

    Your large electrical contractors who bid on large contracts tend have union electricians that are assigned from the IBEW union local. Once the contract/job is completed those electricians are usually laid off and they go back to the union hall looking for another job.
    So, you don't have a problem with union labor. You just have a problem with part-time labor.
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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    And I bet more than 3% of IBEW union members are Republicans or conservative independents.

    But 97% of all IBEW political contributions goes to the Democrats.
    So what?

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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    So, you don't have a problem with union labor. You just have a problem with part-time labor.
    In my life time I've been a member of the Teamsters, Longshoremens ILWU and IBEW.

    As a longshoremen I could say we worked part time but got paid for full time.

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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    Another government program that will probably end up costing far, FAR more then it ever saves.

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