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White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install sol

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Are these moderate anti-IS more trustworthy to receive training and equipment? We do not want them to turn against us also just like ISIS do we?
Wrong thread, unless ISIS has infiltrated the solar panel and green energy sector as Brietbart had warned previously.
 
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Does the solar panel industry need 50,000 more installers? Did anybody check?

No, of course not. In Obama's world, green ideaology trumps market sense each and every time.
 
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Are these moderate anti-IS more trustworthy to receive training and equipment? We do not want them to turn against us also just like ISIS do we?

Now, there's an idea, except I'd give it a twist: We could train ISIL guerrillas as solar panel installers. It would provide something liberals love: a jobs program for people who, between beheadings, are just misunderstood.

Anyway, I think you're in the wrong thread, buddy. You took a wrong turn somewhere between Aleppo and Albuquerque. ;)
 
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:applaud:applaud I can not say how much I love this program! Job training, new jobs, and green energy! :mrgreen: This is a great program, and I cannot think why anyone ccouldbe against this!

Not to be petty, but couldn't the federal government contract with Solyndra have included a program such as this as one of the conditions included in the half a $billion plus of government money they and Obama pissed down the drain?
 
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Now, there's an idea, except I'd give it a twist: We could train ISIL guerrillas as solar panel installers. It would provide something liberals love: a jobs program for people who, between beheadings, are just misunderstood.

Anyway, I think you're in the wrong thread, buddy. You took a wrong turn somewhere between Aleppo and Albuquerque. ;)

Yeah, was not paying much attention. Was having tons of laughs with this:

Eating Loudly In The Library - YouTube
 
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Not to be petty, but couldn't the federal government contract with Solyndra have included a program such as this as one of the conditions included in the half a $billion plus of government money they and Obama pissed down the drain?

Good morning, CJ. :2wave:

Good point! Sometimes paying off a campaign donor hundreds of millions of dollars from taxpayer wallets - then learning that said donor has filed for bankruptcy so we'll never be repaid - then watching BHO give an oh-well :shrug: to the rest of us.... just isn't enough! :thumbdown: I don't understand how someone can live on "well, what'll we do today to get some headlines and TV appearance on how great we are" - don't they ever consider "thinking ahead" a little bit? Sheesh! :sinking:
 
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I guess that "Dont' do stupid stuff." just applies to foreign policy.
 
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Obama's holding up his part of the deal, paying back the IBEW for help putting him in the White House.

That's all it is.

I hope this doesn't dumb down America's electricians. Every four years (Presidental election time) the IBEW tries to increase it's union membership by fast tracking unqualified apprentice electricians as journeymen and you have these new journeymen electricians showing up on job sites who don't know how to pull wire. :lamo


Would a link be too much to ask? Or are you talking out of your partisan ass again?
 
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You have to ask how many IBEW electricians are sitting at home today waiting for a call from their union local that there's a job available ?

Usually when you finish one project you're waiting weeks or even months for a new project to start up.

Funny all the IBEW workers I knew including my dad,that worked for a telephone company, put in 40 plus hours a week for 21 years after getting out of the military. But then you do make false claims on here on a regular basis with no links.
 
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That doesn't answer the question. Does the solar panel industry need 50,000 more installers?

Veterans need jobs. Should we train them to be coal miners instead?
 
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Funny all the IBEW workers I knew including my dad,that worked for a telephone company, put in 40 plus hours a week for 21 years after getting out of the military. But then you do make false claims on here on a regular basis with no links.

Did your dad work construction or did he work for the same employer all of the time ?
 
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Did your dad work construction or did he work for the same employer all of the time ?

You're assuming again. Not all IBEW members work in construction. There are a multitude of jobs in the union that are NOT construction.
 
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Veterans need jobs. Should we train them to be coal miners instead?

Yes, if there are unfilled positions in coal mines. No if, like me, you believe that job training is not an appropriate role for the federal government. What is the point of people training for jobs that do not exist?
 
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Would a link be too much to ask? Or are you talking out of your partisan ass again?

Out of curiosity, what is the point of a link? Are people now supposed to believe what they read on the internet?
 
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You're assuming again. Not all IBEW members work in construction. There are a multitude of jobs in the union that are NOT construction.

That's correct, not all IBEW members work construction. Those who do, find themselves in between jobs a lot.

Installing solar panels would fall under construction.
The contractor would be required to be a licenese electrical contractor.

Most electrical contractors who employ full time electricians are not union.

Your large electrical contractors who bid on large contracts tend have union electricians that are assigned from the IBEW union local. Once the contract/job is completed those electricians are usually laid off and they go back to the union hall looking for another job.
 
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Yes, if there are unfilled positions in coal mines. No if, like me, you believe that job training is not an appropriate role for the federal government. What is the point of people training for jobs that do not exist?

How do you know they don't exist?

We spend a lot more money giving it away to foreign countries like Israel. Why not pump it into the economy here? It's not like it's flushed down the toilet like it is in Iraq or Afghanistan.

Would you have been against the CCC during the Great Depression too?

Btw I will be running all my utilities on solar and wind in the near future much to the chagrine of my power company. And it does take some serious electrical skills to pull it off safely and correctly. Fortunately I get help from a family member that has those skills and knowledge.
 
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That's correct, not all IBEW members work construction.

I see you back tracked a little. LOL
 
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I see you back tracked a little. LOL

And I bet more than 3% of IBEW union members are Republicans or conservative independents.

But 97% of all IBEW political contributions goes to the Democrats.
 
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Obama's holding up his part of the deal, paying back the IBEW for help putting him in the White House.

That's all it is.

I hope this doesn't dumb down America's electricians. Every four years (Presidental election time) the IBEW tries to increase it's union membership by fast tracking unqualified apprentice electricians as journeymen and you have these new journeymen electricians showing up on job sites who don't know how to pull wire. :lamo

You know, I find it very interesting that the people who scream the loudest about how bad the country needs jobs are also the same people who complain when any initiative is fostered to spur job growth.

I get that such people don't like unions, but unless other industries are willing to move forward with initiatives to create new jobs especially where opening up new industries is concerned, I don't have a problem with the government taking the lead in partnership with unions to train our veterans in growth industries at good pay.
 
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That's correct, not all IBEW members work construction. Those who do, find themselves in between jobs a lot.

Installing solar panels would fall under construction.
The contractor would be required to be a licenese electrical contractor.

Most electrical contractors who employ full time electricians are not union.

Your large electrical contractors who bid on large contracts tend have union electricians that are assigned from the IBEW union local. Once the contract/job is completed those electricians are usually laid off and they go back to the union hall looking for another job.

So, you don't have a problem with union labor. You just have a problem with part-time labor.
 
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And I bet more than 3% of IBEW union members are Republicans or conservative independents.

But 97% of all IBEW political contributions goes to the Democrats.

So what?
 
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So, you don't have a problem with union labor. You just have a problem with part-time labor.

In my life time I've been a member of the Teamsters, Longshoremens ILWU and IBEW.

As a longshoremen I could say we worked part time but got paid for full time. :lol:
 
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Another government program that will probably end up costing far, FAR more then it ever saves.
 
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