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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    Quote Originally Posted by LagerHead View Post
    You hit the nail on the head. How could anybody possibly be against the government picking winners and losers in private business? I can't think of a single Solyndra...er, I of course mean, solitary reason why anyone would possibly object to this plan.
    Of course we've been picking winners and losers in the power area for decades. The most obvious recent example is the XL pipeline - we gave a foreign company condemnation powers to build a pipeline across the entire U.S. (once it's approved, and it will be IMO). If you support Keystone XL, you support picking winners and losers.

    Also, too, how many $trillions have we spend mucking around in the ME because of the vast oil deposits there? Several trillions.... 2,000 failed Solyndras is $1 trillion. How much do Americans spend on spend on healthcare costs related to fossil fuel pollution? Estimates vary but $300B to $1,000B per year, or another 600-2,000 failed Solyndras, per year.

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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, I guess I should have known you back then...Ah well. I still don't think it is a bad idea...
    Agreed.

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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    I like the gratuitous "including veterans" in the PBS headline. I wouldn't assume they would be excluded....
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    I like the gratuitous "including veterans" in the PBS headline. I wouldn't assume they would be excluded....
    If you read the WH press release, the initial efforts appear to run military bases and are targeted directly to veterans.

    A New Solar Energy Job-Training Pilot Program for Veterans | The White House

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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    You forgot "filling potholes" and "building community libraries." I associate all of these things together with a totalitarian police state.
    Buy an atoll.

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    Buy an atoll.
    That or one of those "Libertarian Paradises" constructed from old oil rigs.
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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    Stupid idea...when will big gov lovers learn?

    If the demand for this was there, the gov wouldn't need to do this.

    Since they do, that proves the demand is not there.

    Result...huge waste of taxpayers money.


    Imo, this is just a mid-term election (expensive) stunt.

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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Of course we've been picking winners and losers in the power area for decades. The most obvious recent example is the XL pipeline - we gave a foreign company condemnation powers to build a pipeline across the entire U.S. (once it's approved, and it will be IMO). If you support Keystone XL, you support picking winners and losers.

    Also, too, how many $trillions have we spend mucking around in the ME because of the vast oil deposits there? Several trillions.... 2,000 failed Solyndras is $1 trillion. How much do Americans spend on spend on healthcare costs related to fossil fuel pollution? Estimates vary but $300B to $1,000B per year, or another 600-2,000 failed Solyndras, per year.

    Etc.
    I don't support the government picking winners and losers, period. The NEA is but a pittance in the amount the government spends every year doing so, but it's a perfectly valid example.

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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install solar panels
    sounds good. beats spending tax dollars on endless war.

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    Re: White House announces plan to train 50,000 people, including veterans, to install

    Quote Originally Posted by LagerHead View Post
    I don't support the government picking winners and losers, period. The NEA is but a pittance in the amount the government spends every year doing so, but it's a perfectly valid example.
    Whether you support it or not, we ARE subsidizing oil and gas by $10s or hundreds of $billions per year, every year, and have for many decades. So either need to raise gas taxes by a huge amount to cover the direct and indirect oil subsidies, or solar is operating at a huge competitive disadvantage to heavily subsidized oil and gas.

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