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    Re: Ferguson officer appears before grand jury on shooting of Michael Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Sounds to me like Officer Wilson is an honorable man and regardless of attorney advice wanted to let his side of the story be told because he feels he acted appropriately.

    I'm glad to see this happen - personally, I've seen far too many police officers here in Toronto refuse to cooperate with investigations into incidents where a member of the public is seriously injured or killed.

    McCulloch has pledged to present every witness and every shred of evidence to let the grand jurors independently decide whether to indict Wilson, without the prosecutor making a recommendation. Magee has said that prosecutors will help witnesses navigate legal issues.

    Sounds like some wisdom has prevailed. In the "unique" US Grand Jury system, this is as close to fair as you're going to get, fairer if they're were mandated to present ALL the evidence not just that which points to guilt.

    No matter the outcome, because of the initial bungling and mis-reporting, no matter what the outcome, people will still line up on their favorite side.
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    Re: Ferguson officer appears before grand jury on shooting of Michael Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I could be wrong, but believe his lawyer was present. But, otherwise I agree with you. There are so many things about this case that make me suspect they really do not expect charges to be brought. I realize that some will claim bias, but I suspect it is far more likely that they've seen thee vidnece and are just doing this as a show to help appease a certain part of the population.
    No lawyer present. In the Grand Jury in MO, it's only the 12 jurors, the prosecutor, and the witness. He could have his lawyer present only if he pleads the 5th.

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    Re: Grand Jury Reportedly hears from officer

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    Recording the entire hearing, so that they can release all information if he is not indicted. I find that interesting.. and.. again.. makes me think there is exculpatory evidence and they do not expect an indictment to be handed down.
    Exactly. And doing so would possibly have the effect of thwarting any bogus Civil Rights violation charge as well.
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    Re: Ferguson officer appears before grand jury on shooting of Michael Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Sounds like some wisdom has prevailed. In the "unique" US Grand Jury system, this is as close to fair as you're going to get, fairer if they're were mandated to present ALL the evidence not just that which points to guilt.

    No matter the outcome, because of the initial bungling and mis-reporting, no matter what the outcome, people will still line up on their favorite side.
    Yup.

    It takes 9 of them to proceed with charges against him.

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    Re: Ferguson officer appears before grand jury on shooting of Michael Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yup.

    It takes 9 of them to proceed with charges against him.
    Actually Missouri law allows an indictment without a true bill if 7 or 8 grand jurors vote to indict.

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    Re: Ferguson officer appears before grand jury on shooting of Michael Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Actually Missouri law allows an indictment without a true bill if 7 or 8 grand jurors vote to indict.
    I saw this the other day when the AP put it out. I can't remember where I saw it but here it is on the ABC site. They mentioned 9 jurors. But we may be speaking of something different.

    Questions, Answers About Missouri Grand Juries - ABC News

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    Re: Ferguson officer appears before grand jury on shooting of Michael Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No lawyer present. In the Grand Jury in MO, it's only the 12 jurors, the prosecutor, and the witness. He could have his lawyer present only if he pleads the 5th.
    Thank you. I thought I had read that his lawyer was present, but I may have been incorrect.

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    Re: Ferguson officer appears before grand jury on shooting of Michael Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I saw this the other day when the AP put it out. I can't remember where I saw it but here it is on the ABC site. They mentioned 9 jurors. But we may be speaking of something different.

    Questions, Answers About Missouri Grand Juries - ABC News
    Section 540-260 Indictment not a true bill, when.

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    Re: Ferguson officer appears before grand jury on shooting of Michael Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I could be wrong, but believe his lawyer was present. But, otherwise I agree with you. There are so many things about this case that make me suspect they really do not expect charges to be brought. I realize that some will claim bias, but I suspect it is far more likely that they've seen thee vidnece and are just doing this as a show to help appease a certain part of the population.
    You may be right, but I understood under US law that no lawyers for any witnesses are allowed in a grand jury room during the taking of evidence. I do agree that it's likely that no charges will be laid here based only on what we've heard to date.
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    Re: Ferguson officer appears before grand jury on shooting of Michael Brown

    There are plenty of bad cops out there but this guy is not on of them.

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