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    Re: States with higher minimum wage gain more jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    More ammo to those who favor raising the wage. They were told if they raise the wage jobs would be loss, in seems that the opposite is happening. Those states who raised the wage are currently creating more jobs. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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    Economists who support a higher minimum say the figures are encouraging, though they acknowledge they don't establish a cause and effect. There are many possible reasons hiring might accelerate in a particular state.

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    Re: States with higher minimum wage gain more jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    Even that is unsupported by the data. There are a lot of factors and the MW is just ONE.
    The data plus simple logic supports it though. Employers hire when they need help, a few dollars a day does not change that NEED.

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    Re: States with higher minimum wage gain more jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The data plus simple logic supports it though. Employers hire when they need help, a few dollars a day does not change that NEED.
    Small Business owners must weigh every dollar spent,
    and justify it against profits. They may need the help, but that NEED could be satisfied through
    technology. With the advent of the ipad, and other tablets, a Customer kiosk is just an application,
    and some mounting hardware.
    From self checkout at retail outlets to ordering at fast food places, these kiosks are coming already.
    The more they make the cheaper and better they will get.
    When the price of labor goes up, the price of the technology looks better.
    Business owners are not in business to create jobs, but profits.

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    Re: States with higher minimum wage gain more jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    Small Business owners must weigh every dollar spent,
    and justify it against profits. They may need the help, but that NEED could be satisfied through
    technology. With the advent of the ipad, and other tablets, a Customer kiosk is just an application,
    and some mounting hardware.
    From self checkout at retail outlets to ordering at fast food places, these kiosks are coming already.
    The more they make the cheaper and better they will get.
    When the price of labor goes up, the price of the technology looks better.
    Business owners are not in business to create jobs, but profits.
    All those things happen no matter what wage costs are. Humans will never compete with machines but machines cannot replace humans in all areas.
    You must like that the Govt. makes up the difference in low wage jobs with food stamps and Medicare. Those Govt. subsidies for corporations really save companies like Walmart lots of money. We all know how the Walton family is struggling. I'm sure they appreciate your tax money going to help them keep their wage costs low.
    Last edited by iguanaman; 09-17-14 at 06:20 PM.

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    Re: States with higher minimum wage gain more jobs

    All you guys on the right miss the OP entire point.

    The fact that those 13 states had faster job growth than the other states debunked the myth from the right that increasing the minimum wage would hurt job growth.

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    Re: States with higher minimum wage gain more jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    All those things happen no matter what wage costs are. Humans will never compete with machines but machines cannot replace humans in all areas.
    You must like that the Govt. makes up the difference in low wage jobs with food stamps and Medicare. Those Govt. subsidies for corporations really save companies like Walmart lots of money. We all know how the Walton family is struggling. I'm sure they appreciate your tax money going to help them keep their wage costs low.
    Anytime the Government mandates someone pay more for a good or service that it is worth,
    the net result to the person paying for the good or service is indistinguishable from a tax

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    Re: States with higher minimum wage gain more jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Never said raising the wage was the cause of the job growth. Stating that it did not cause job losses..
    It may have reduced job growth.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: States with higher minimum wage gain more jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    All you guys on the right miss the OP entire point.

    The fact that those 13 states had faster job growth than the other states debunked the myth from the right that increasing the minimum wage would hurt job growth.
    Read the thread.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: States with higher minimum wage gain more jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Argh. That is such a stupid red-herring. You can't just look at one factor and go HELL YA! you're all wrong. Economies are complex and there can be many factors that lead to a result. Furthermore, there is many things the government does that encourages and discourages employment that all need to be taken into account before any conclusion on the statistics presented is made.
    So merely raising wages does not cause job as loss as those against minimum wage like to claim it does?
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    Re: States with higher minimum wage gain more jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So merely raising wages does not cause job as loss as those against minimum wage like to claim it does?
    The effects of the minimum wage are hard to measure due to so many other factors, and the debate over the positives and negatives of minimum wage are still very much debatable. Regardless, the majority of economists agree that minimum wage laws increase unemployment among low skilled workers.

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