Page 1 of 11 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 108

Thread: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

  1. #1
    Sage
    Erod's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    North Texas
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:47 AM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    13,073

    U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/us...om-mexico.html

    WASHINGTON — Militants for the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria have traveled to Mexico and are just miles from the United States. They plan to cross over the porous border and will “imminently” launch car bomb attacks. And the threat is so real that federal law enforcement officers have been placed at a heightened state of alert, and an American military base near the border has increased its security.

    As the Obama administration and the American public have focused their attention on ISIS in recent weeks, conservative groups and leading Republicans have issued stark warnings like those that ISIS and other extremists from Syria are planning to enter the country illegally from Mexico. But the Homeland Security Department, the F.B.I. and lawmakers who represent areas near the border say there is no truth to the warnings.
    Very odd headline from the New York Times. The "U.S." is not pushing back against the warnings. Democrats are. And the first paragraph states that ISIS has travelled across the border as fact, with no attribution.

    I suppose the NY Times does not want to appear in contrast with its beloved president and party, but obviously, their information contradicts what Democrats are saying.

    Nevertheless, this is concerning to say the least.

  2. #2
    Left the building
    Fearandloathing's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Vancouver, Canada Dual citizen
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    18,492

    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/us...om-mexico.html



    Very odd headline from the New York Times. The "U.S." is not pushing back against the warnings. Democrats are. And the first paragraph states that ISIS has travelled across the border as fact, with no attribution.

    I suppose the NY Times does not want to appear in contrast with its beloved president and party, but obviously, their information contradicts what Democrats are saying.

    Nevertheless, this is concerning to say the least.


    OK....sure.

    This is the same group who got it right on the Benghazi assassination? The guys who approved the early pull out from Iraq? The same group that saw the ISIS threat right?

    Yeah, sure, I'm cool that ISIS isn't going to send some guys to learn Spanish and pose as Mexicans....yep

    500,000 illegals a year streaming into the country, a problem a succession of US governments have been able to solve anyway, and it's "move along, folks, nothing to see here...pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."


    Meanwhile Canadians legally crossing to go shopping in Bellingham get strip searched.....
    ""You know, when we sell to other countries, even if they're allies -- you never know about an ally. An ally can turn."
    Donald Trump, 11/23/17

  3. #3
    Mod Conspiracy Theorist
    rocket88's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    A very blue state
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:42 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,191

    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    OK....sure.

    This is the same group who got it right on the Benghazi assassination? The guys who approved the early pull out from Iraq? The same group that saw the ISIS threat right?

    Yeah, sure, I'm cool that ISIS isn't going to send some guys to learn Spanish and pose as Mexicans....yep

    500,000 illegals a year streaming into the country, a problem a succession of US governments have been able to solve anyway, and it's "move along, folks, nothing to see here...pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."


    Meanwhile Canadians legally crossing to go shopping in Bellingham get strip searched.....
    Maybe ISIS will come from Canada. It's possible.

    There's really no way to keep them out unless we close the borders entirely. The Sept. 11 hijackers entered the country legally. Presumably they answered "no" when asked if they were terrorists.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

  4. #4
    Sage

    ocean515's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Southern California
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    24,705

    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Maybe ISIS will come from Canada. It's possible.

    There's really no way to keep them out unless we close the borders entirely. The Sept. 11 hijackers entered the country legally. Presumably they answered "no" when asked if they were terrorists.
    I'm with you R88. Didn't I read one of ISIL top I.T. guys went to Boston College?

    They are already here. Claiming they are not does not help the governments credibility. On the other hand, what if the government did admit they were here, living among other Muslim faithful? That could get ugly fast.

    A real problem....

  5. #5
    Guru

    HonestJoe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:21 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    3,499

    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Very odd headline from the New York Times. The "U.S." is not pushing back against the warnings. Democrats are. And the first paragraph states that ISIS has travelled across the border as fact, with no attribution.
    The "U.S." seems to be a contraction of "U.S. Federal Government" which is a broadly accurate representation (whether it's politically motivated is a different question). Headlines are often squeezed like this (and are often intentionally misleading too) so it's usually best not to read too much in to them.

    The first paragraph seems to be a paraphrase of the claims being made (hence the following "...conservative groups and leading Republicans have issued stark warnings like those..." - my emphasis). I don't think the intention was to state them as fact themselves but it wasn't very well framed.

    My conclusion is bad writing, not bad intentions.

  6. #6
    Sage
    PeteEU's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Denmark
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    29,092

    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    There are more Muslims in Canada than Mexico and the Canadian border is basically unguarded for the most part.. so why not fear them coming in from Canada?
    PeteEU

  7. #7
    Sage
    Visbek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 05:28 PM
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    10,020

    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The "U.S." is not pushing back against the warnings. Democrats are.
    Erm. You see no distinction between DHS, FBI, and legislators who live on the border from "Democrats?" You do know that a lot of those legislators are Republican, right?

    The idea that Islamic State is going to invade via Mexico is ridiculous, as was the idea that Hezbollah or Hamas was going to do the same. It's scare-mongering, not a genuine cause for concern.

  8. #8
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,584

    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    It's stupid to assume that jihadist won't cross the border illegally. It's an obvious avenue of approach.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  9. #9
    Sage
    polgara's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    NE Ohio
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:09 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    18,356

    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's stupid to assume that jihadist won't cross the border illegally. It's an obvious avenue of approach.
    Greeting, apdst.

    Or maybe they're already here, as some suspect!

  10. #10
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Erm. You see no distinction between DHS, FBI, and legislators who live on the border from "Democrats?" You do know that a lot of those legislators are Republican, right?

    The idea that Islamic State is going to invade via Mexico is ridiculous, as was the idea that Hezbollah or Hamas was going to do the same. It's scare-mongering, not a genuine cause for concern.

    No one said they would invade.....that doesn't mean they wont try to get people thru the Southern Border. Already we were told they had been studying material and maps over the Southern Border. Plus BO's own people have told him that they could get in thru the southern border.

Page 1 of 11 123 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •