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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    The NYT did not say so.
    The NYT said that "conservative groups and leading Republicans" said so.

    As the Obama administration and the American public have focused their attention on ISIS in recent weeks, conservative groups and leading Republicans have issued stark warnings like those that ISIS and other extremists from Syria are planning to enter the country illegally from Mexico.

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    Read the first paragraph of the story. It attributes no one.

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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's stupid to assume that jihadist won't cross the border illegally. It's an obvious avenue of approach.
    Probably been doing it since we began the "war on terror"
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/us...om-mexico.html



    Very odd headline from the New York Times. The "U.S." is not pushing back against the warnings. Democrats are. And the first paragraph states that ISIS has travelled across the border as fact, with no attribution.

    I suppose the NY Times does not want to appear in contrast with its beloved president and party, but obviously, their information contradicts what Democrats are saying.

    Nevertheless, this is concerning to say the least.
    Why is it odd coming from NYT?

    That is the same outfit that covered up the NSA dirty work being performed by telecoms back in 2003, and that coverup allowed Bush to be re-elected.

    NYT is just another mouthpiece for the neocons that still control the government. Their role is to fear monger, and that's what this story is.

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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    If the problem could be solved with explosives, then don't you think the approximate 80,000 tonnes of explosives would of done the trick (That's the approximate amount used during the entirety of the Iraq War)
    I never said the Problem could be solved with explosives now HBuddha.....much needs to be done up close and personal. In the dark.....and with what the terrorists fear most. Also this is not just a US problem.....this is everyones problem. So Hunting them down.....is key to destroying them.

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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Yep...no need for concern.

    Are these Islamic State centers, or are we at the point that all Muslims are terrorists?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I never said the Problem could be solved with explosives now HBuddha.....much needs to be done up close and personal. In the dark.....and with what the terrorists fear most. Also this is not just a US problem.....this is everyones problem. So Hunting them down.....is key to destroying them.
    To your point, the problem with Radical Islam is that it's not a problem with one unifying agenda. In fact, the only thing the jihadist in Indonesia, China, Europe, ME, Africa all agree upon, is that Allah is God and they must kill in his name.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Are these Islamic State centers, or are we at the point that all Muslims are terrorists?
    Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda have all carried out terrorist attacks against civilian targets... so that's why there labeled as such. And I'm assuming a group called "Algerian ARMED Islamic Group" isn't formed to carry out Tupperware parties.

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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/us...om-mexico.html



    Very odd headline from the New York Times. The "U.S." is not pushing back against the warnings. Democrats are. And the first paragraph states that ISIS has travelled across the border as fact, with no attribution.

    I suppose the NY Times does not want to appear in contrast with its beloved president and party, but obviously, their information contradicts what Democrats are saying.

    Nevertheless, this is concerning to say the least.
    Perhaps one should throw all the rhetoric aside coming from the two parties. Listen to what exactly ISIS is saying they are going to do. Then assess in your own mind if it is feasible, possible. Keep in mind the rhetoric coming from the two parties are usually polar opposite and on the other side of the spectrum from each other. That usually the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

    Personally I would say if ISIS or any other terrorist wanted to enter the U.S. illegally they could do so rather easily. The border with Mexico is just one avenue, there is also the border to the north and entering by sea is also fairly easy. Keep in mind that if there is the will, they is always a way. Even entering legally through student visas, tourist visas, etc.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Are these Islamic State centers, or are we at the point that all Muslims are terrorists?
    When a few extremists carried out murder and terrorism on abortion doctors, followers of many Christian faiths were quick to condemn their actions. This condemnation, as I recall, was long and concentrated, despite efforts by some to paint all Christian religions as supporting those actions.

    In the case of Terrorism and Muslims, I think their religious leaders are displaying some of the worst PR efforts in History. For some reason, they have, by and large, chosen to go silent on the issue of terrorism and their faith. To many this speaks volumes. I hope someone steps up and demonstrates to the world that they are prepared to destroy those who are defaming their religion, and that thousands of it's faithful rally in support.

    At this point, the world is poised to deal with the issue, and it could get very ugly, fast.

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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Are these Islamic State centers, or are we at the point that all Muslims are terrorists?
    All Germans were not Nazi's and yet we chose to fight Germany in WWII. When a genocidal movement reaches critical mass inside a nation, with or without its official government sanction, it becomes worthy of outside opposition.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Why is it odd coming from NYT?

    That is the same outfit that covered up the NSA dirty work being performed by telecoms back in 2003, and that coverup allowed Bush to be re-elected.

    NYT is just another mouthpiece for the neocons that still control the government. Their role is to fear monger, and that's what this story is.
    HD, you have some really ..... interesting views on the world. Calling the NYT, the same newspaper that ran with the ad "General Petraeus or General Betray US?"

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