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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Very odd headline from the New York Times. The "U.S." is not pushing back against the warnings. Democrats are. And the first paragraph states that ISIS has travelled across the border as fact, with no attribution.
    Actually, there is attribution.
    The very next sentence reveals the attribution:

    As the Obama administration and the American public have focused their attention on ISIS in recent weeks, conservative groups and leading Republicans have issued stark warnings like those that ISIS and other extremists from Syria are planning to enter the country illegally from Mexico. But the Homeland Security Department, the F.B.I. and lawmakers who represent areas near the border say there is no truth to the warnings.

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    Let me know if I can clear up anything else.
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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    You appear to be taking it seriously, and that does seem like in this instance, you are falling for it. As rather obviously evidenced by your apparent acceptance of the rather absurd belief that, in the very same post, that ISIL is operating in Juarez.



    You can't be serious.

    JW made that statement on August 29th. It claims, based on unnamed sources, that terrorists were going to attack on the anniversary of 9/11 (they didn't), identified the groups as "ISIS and Al Qaeda" (the two groups split years ago and there is zero chance they will cooperate), and conflated this with the high crime rate in Juarez. The same press release simultaneously points out that the State Department repeatedly issues warnings to stay away from Juarez because of the crime rate, and claims the Obama administration tries to "cover up" the crime rate in Juarez. Which, by the way, is actually in another country.

    So yes, JW is basically full of s***.



    Actually, the NY Times and Fox News Latino cited them.



    Uh, no. Neither the FBI or DHS set, or are involved in, foreign policy.


    Not quite.....I appear to be the one that gets most of the story out and whats connected to it. That which you can't comprehend. Hence, all that panicking you were yelling about and then falling back into trying to think for another wherein that perception of reality comes into play.

    Yes Judicial Watch and BO's own people and the others all show that it isn't ridiculous.....like you thought. Which that goes back to that Perception issue you have.

    Yeah they did and you repeated them.

    The FBI and DHS don't make foreign policy but they are involved in it. That's why you saw BO peep send them to Benghazi and to go look for the Girls taken by Boko Haram. Also the FBI deals with any Hostage situations under BO's Team.....as does DHS and anything related to the physical security of the country.

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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Than why did the New York Times say so?
    The NYT did not say so.
    The NYT said that "conservative groups and leading Republicans" said so.

    As the Obama administration and the American public have focused their attention on ISIS in recent weeks, conservative groups and leading Republicans have issued stark warnings like those that ISIS and other extremists from Syria are planning to enter the country illegally from Mexico.

    helping is what I do
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    There are more Muslims in Canada than Mexico and the Canadian border is basically unguarded for the most part.. so why not fear them coming in from Canada?
    I think it's safe to say, "US borders are porous"
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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Erm. You see no distinction between DHS, FBI, and legislators who live on the border from "Democrats?" You do know that a lot of those legislators are Republican, right?

    The idea that Islamic State is going to invade via Mexico is ridiculous, as was the idea that Hezbollah or Hamas was going to do the same. It's scare-mongering, not a genuine cause for concern.
    Yep...no need for concern.

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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Yep...no need for concern.


    Well.....that will make it easier to hunt them down, huh? Can that guy Emerson validate those locations?

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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well.....that will make it easier to hunt them down, huh? Can that guy Emerson validate those locations?
    This came from his book in 2002.

    http://www.amazon.com/American-Jihad.../dp/0743234359


    Steven Emerson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I'd say he's an authority on Islamic terrorism.

    One can only imagine what the status of said groups here in the US are now. I haven't seen too many being kicked out.
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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Yep...no need for concern.

    Two major issues I have with this list that I believe should be pointed out.

    First off, I'm curious when they say Al Qaeda, how many per group are they referring to? In the case of Boston, I'm assuming that they are just referring to those two guys that were responsible for the Marathon Bombing. If that is the case, that issue has been resolved. In fact, It's important to note that this list contains not just current groups, but "recent". And by recent, we mean they've already been caught and dealt with. And by the way, those two kids with the Marathon thing, didn't come from Mexico.

    Second, Over half the list deals with organizations that as well as having a militant arm, also have a political wing as well; that being Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Muslim Brotherhood. The people involved in these organizations, at least in the US, have never been connected with a terrorist attack on the mainland, and thus it's unfair to label them as "militant". There are many things that these organizations, namely bring light to the Arab side of the story in the Israeli conflict, which make no mistake, their are villains on both side. As long as they remain peaceful in the US, they have just as much right to protest and bring light to issues people in the West Bank and elsewhere face.

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well.....that will make it easier to hunt them down, huh? Can that guy Emerson validate those locations?
    Emerson is a well-known Islamaphob.... I mean author on Islamic extremism. He's written like five books on the subject.

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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    This came from his book in 2002.

    American Jihad: The Terrorists Living Among Us: Steven Emerson: 9780743234351: Amazon.com: Books


    Steven Emerson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I'd say he's an authority on Islamic terrorism.

    One can only imagine what the status of said groups here in the US are now. I haven't seen too many being kicked out.


    Well with what they show for Chicago......they sure don't make themselves to visible. As they know what will happen to them should they start opening their mouths and taking to the streets. At least here.....they wont last long.

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    Re: U.S. Pushes Back Against Warnings That ISIS Plans to Enter From Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    This came from his book in 2002.

    American Jihad: The Terrorists Living Among Us: Steven Emerson: 9780743234351: Amazon.com: Books


    Steven Emerson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I'd say he's an authority on Islamic terrorism.

    One can only imagine what the status of said groups here in the US are now. I haven't seen too many being kicked out.
    2002 is a long time ago...

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