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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Yes, our military has done some amazing humanitarian missions. However, to dismiss the current state of affairs in the region in regard to Islamofascism, is being reckless. We give the U.N. a lot of taxpayer dollars. It's time they earn them. They are perfectly capable of quarantining villages and teach the locals proper sanitation to stop the spread of the disease. Actually I find it rather a sick joke that 3000 U.S. troops are being sent to the region to quarantine when here in the U.S. the feckless policies of this administration on open borders and our own Centers for Disease Control and Prevention mute on the dangers of all the influx of illegals into this country.
    From the website of the CDC
    Just another reason to fix the broken immigration policy in this country. Though truth be told, I doubt we'll ever solve the problem to anyone's full satisfaction. As long as their are opportunities to be had in the US, and Latin America being the ****-hole it is, we'll always have more people coming in than ideally we want.

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    "But is it really wise for Obama to send thousands of young American men and women into the Ebola death zone?

    What are our troops going to do shoot the virus?

    Obama should keep in mind that hundreds of health workers have become infected even though they wear protective gear and are trained to deal with Ebola patients.

    Our troops have not been trained to deal with Ebola patients and they probably will not be wearing full protective gear when dealing with the general population.

    It is absolutely imperative that we keep Ebola isolated to the areas that it is already affecting.

    Is It Wise For Obama To Send Thousands Of U.S. Troops Into The Ebola Death Zone?

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by kramercat View Post
    "But is it really wise for Obama to send thousands of young American men and women into the Ebola death zone?

    What are our troops going to do – shoot the virus?

    Obama should keep in mind that hundreds of health workers have become infected even though they wear protective gear and are trained to deal with Ebola patients.

    Our troops have not been trained to deal with Ebola patients and they probably will not be wearing full protective gear when dealing with the general population.

    It is absolutely imperative that we keep Ebola isolated to the areas that it is already affecting.

    Is It Wise For Obama To Send Thousands Of U.S. Troops Into The Ebola Death Zone?
    What makes you think our soldiers will have anything to do directly with Ebola patients?
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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    That is comparing apples to oranges. The U.N Peacekeeping mission in Somalia was to enforce a ceasefire where it was ambushed by Somalia militias. They seem to have better success when their missions are humanitarian. I find putting U.S. troops in a region to enforce law a risky choice because of the growing number of radical Muslims in the area.
    What's with the concern about Muslims and their supposed anti-American sentiments? We are all over the mid-East doing the same stuff, interfering, and about to bomb them again. And we'll probably end up sending in ground troops.

    What's the big deal about it here? What's the difference? It's a humanitarian mission.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by kramercat View Post
    What are our troops going to do – shoot the virus?
    • Coordinate relief efforts
    • Transport medical supplies
    • Build hospital facilities
    • Train health care workers

    They aren't very likely to be directly exposed to patients.


    Obama should keep in mind that hundreds of health workers have become infected even though they wear protective gear and are trained to deal with Ebola patients.
    Actually, lots of health workers can't wear protective gear. Many are going into small villages to find potentially infected people, and if they show up wearing space suits then the locals are far less likely to cooperate.


    It is absolutely imperative that we keep Ebola isolated to the areas that it is already affecting.
    Uh, yes. And in order to do that, you need to do stuff like:
    • Coordinate relief efforts
    • Transport medical supplies
    • Build hospital facilities
    • Train health care workers

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    What's with the concern about Muslims and their supposed anti-American sentiments? We are all over the mid-East doing the same stuff, interfering, and about to bomb them again. And we'll probably end up sending in ground troops.

    What's the big deal about it here? What's the difference? It's a humanitarian mission.
    Maybe you missed the prez's speech today. Once again he made it perfectly clear that he was not committing ground troops to fight ISIS. Instead "his team" are planning to arm and train Syrian rebels in Saudi Arabia. You know the Syrian rebels no one is sure which side their bread is buttered? And the cherry on the sundae is this training will take place in Saudi Arabia where significant amount of funding for ISIS has been pouring forth. Marvelous.

    So what we have here are no boots on the ground in Iraq but boots on the ground in Liberia. Though Ebola is a threat and needs to be dealt with it is not an imminent threat to the U.S. at this time. If it were you would expect this administration to be doing a better job on the illegal immigration problem he has allowed to happen. And if there was an outbreak in this country, because of our health standards it would be quickly contained. But terrorist groups like ISIS are an imminent threat with hundreds of our own citizens joining their ranks and who have passports to freely move about. There is such a thing as the African Corp. which is a humanitarian organization. They could be assisted by the U.N. Peacekeepers in building medical facilities and quarantining villages and all the things Obama wants our soldiers to do. No doubt our soldiers can do the job but it wasn't what they were trained to do. We give the UN a significant amount of money every year. IMO, they should be assisting the humanitarian groups already established in Africa. Obama has got it bass ackwards. He is willing to risk the lives of soldiers over a killer disease but not put boots on the ground in Iraq to do what they were trained to do even though Dempsy and others claim they are needed to end the threat of this scum. But hey we have a Commander in Chief that makes decisions on political polling.

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They'll have to be quarantened for an appropriate period, before they come home.
    Maybe all of those FEMA camps will finally get some use ?

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Maybe you missed the prez's speech today. Once again he made it perfectly clear that he was not committing ground troops to fight ISIS. Instead "his team" are planning to arm and train Syrian rebels in Saudi Arabia. You know the Syrian rebels no one is sure which side their bread is buttered? And the cherry on the sundae is this training will take place in Saudi Arabia where significant amount of funding for ISIS has been pouring forth. Marvelous.

    So what we have here are no boots on the ground in Iraq but boots on the ground in Liberia. Though Ebola is a threat and needs to be dealt with it is not an imminent threat to the U.S. at this time. If it were you would expect this administration to be doing a better job on the illegal immigration problem he has allowed to happen. And if there was an outbreak in this country, because of our health standards it would be quickly contained. But terrorist groups like ISIS are an imminent threat with hundreds of our own citizens joining their ranks and who have passports to freely move about. There is such a thing as the African Corp. which is a humanitarian organization. They could be assisted by the U.N. Peacekeepers in building medical facilities and quarantining villages and all the things Obama wants our soldiers to do. No doubt our soldiers can do the job but it wasn't what they were trained to do. We give the UN a significant amount of money every year. IMO, they should be assisting the humanitarian groups already established in Africa. Obama has got it bass ackwards. He is willing to risk the lives of soldiers over a killer disease but not put boots on the ground in Iraq to do what they were trained to do even though Dempsy and others claim they are needed to end the threat of this scum. But hey we have a Commander in Chief that makes decisions on political polling.
    Yeah we have no idea what's going to happen with ISIS and that claim of no boots on the ground is way too early. I dont believe it and I implied that in my post.

    I think it would be fine if the UN sent troops, I dont know why they arent. Do you know they havent? The point is there are solid reasons in our American best interests to send troops there and I dont understand why you were connecting that with Islam?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Because the only usefulness of UN Peacekeepers are to stand around with their thumbs up their collective asses. Exhibit A being Somalia.
    They also have a habit of committing rape.

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Yeah we have no idea what's going to happen with ISIS and that claim of no boots on the ground is way too early. I dont believe it and I implied that in my post.

    I think it would be fine if the UN sent troops, I dont know why they arent. Do you know they havent? The point is there are solid reasons in our American best interests to send troops there and I dont understand why you were connecting that with Islam?
    The reason for my concerns for our troops being sent to that region is because of the uptick of Islamofascism in the region. Terrorist organizations in Africa are uniting. United States and the west need to take serious the increase activities of terrorism in Africa. The aims and objectives of the terrorisms in Africa are to stop the flow of freedom/democracy and to destroy the interest of the United States and its Western allied nations. Sending 3000 troops to the region will regardless their mission is likely to be met with resistance by terrorist organizations. Instead, working behind the scenes by offering assistance to organizations already operating in the area seems much more logical.

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