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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I think it has to do more with politics than actually anything else. Obama is turning up the rhetoric on an issue that has bi-partisan support - so he sends US troops to show how much of a "leader" he is. Rather cynically but also probably close to the truth - this is meant to help mid-terms - whether or not that is the primary driver of this... cynically I'd suspect it is, realistically it might just be a happy side effect.
    I don't see it as cynical but the choice to send U.S. troop illogical when the U.N. Peacekeepers are well equipped and have special teams well prepared to handle something like this. It is like choosing a fork to slice a loaf of bread instead of a knife. Also putting our troops in an area that has a growing anti-American sentiment among the people seems like a stupid choice.

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    People seemed to buy it for terrorism so why not infectious disease?

    "If we fight it there, we wont have to fight it here."

    The goal is to keep it contained in Africa.
    I'd prefer that Ebola stay where it is. I'm all for whatever we have to do to keep it there. I do feel bad for the military people who have to face it head on though.

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I think it has to do more with politics than actually anything else. Obama is turning up the rhetoric on an issue that has bi-partisan support - so he sends US troops to show how much of a "leader" he is. Rather cynically but also probably close to the truth - this is meant to help mid-terms - whether or not that is the primary driver of this... cynically I'd suspect it is, realistically it might just be a happy side effect.


    Well he did put some bass in his voice and talk tuff against the disease.....he knows the disease can't respond back verbally. BO will milk this for all he can get out of it.....knowing what he does with the rest of FP is a mistake waiting to happen.

    Think Rahm Emanuel and any Crisis. BO follows the same mentality.

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I don't understand why it is the U.S. military that is being used for this mission and not one U.N. Peacekeeper.
    Because the only usefulness of UN Peacekeepers are to stand around with their thumbs up their collective asses. Exhibit A being Somalia.

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'd prefer that Ebola stay where it is. I'm all for whatever we have to do to keep it there. I do feel bad for the military people who have to face it head on though.
    Unlike the Flu, Ebola isn't airborne but transmitted through bodily fluid. As long as the troops aren't making out with the natives, or throwing around feces, they'll be alright.

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Ockham. Yeah.....why aren't those CDC guys going.
    They already are

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone


    Yeah we know.....as some already mentioned it yesterday.

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Because the only usefulness of UN Peacekeepers are to stand around with their thumbs up their collective asses. Exhibit A being Somalia.
    That is comparing apples to oranges. The U.N Peacekeeping mission in Somalia was to enforce a ceasefire where it was ambushed by Somalia militias. They seem to have better success when their missions are humanitarian. I find putting U.S. troops in a region to enforce law a risky choice because of the growing number of radical Muslims in the area.

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    That is comparing apples to oranges. The U.N Peacekeeping mission in Somalia was to enforce a ceasefire where it was ambushed by Somalia militias. They seem to have better success when their missions are humanitarian. I find putting U.S. troops in a region to enforce law a risky choice because of the growing number of radical Muslims in the area.
    Say what you will though, the US has built up an impressive capacity to assist in humanitarian mission. Think back to aftermath of the Sumatra Earthquake and following Tsunami, the US Military was the one of the first on the scene and the only one with the capacity to coordinate a relief effort on that scale:

    The United States has dispatched numerous C-5 Galaxy and C-17 Globemaster III strategic airlifters and ten C-130 Hercules tactical airlifters containing disaster supplies, nine P-3C Orion maritime patrol aircraft for search and rescue support, and several teams from the Departments of State and Defense to coordinate additional assistance. They are using Utapao Naval Air Base in Thailand as their regional hub. Additionally, the United States has offered assistance from its troops stationed in Japan. USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier battle group, which was in port in Hong Kong, was dispatched to the coast of Sumatra to provide support to the Indonesian province of Aceh. In addition, an Expeditionary Strike Group led by USS Bonhomme Richard, scheduled for a port call in Guam, were dispatched to render assistance. A total of 48 Navy and Marine Corps helicopters are involved. Each ship can produce around 90,000 US gallons (340,000 L) of fresh water per day. The US Navy has also deployed the USNS Mercy, a 1,000-bed hospital ship (to be initially staffed to support 250 patient beds).[122] More than 12,600 Department of Defense personnel are involved in the relief effort, Operation Unified Assistance. USNS Mercy departed San Diego on 5 January 2005 en route to the tsunami-devastated regions of South East Asia, where she provided medical care to the victims of the disaster as part of Operation Unified Assistance, and further care as part of Theater Security Cooperation Program 2005. Combined, she provided 108,000 patient services, rendered by members of the Department of Defense, Project Hope, and the United States Public Health Service.

    If you want real humanitarian assistance, you don't go running to the UN, you look to the US.

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Say what you will though, the US has built up an impressive capacity to assist in humanitarian mission. Think back to aftermath of the Sumatra Earthquake and following Tsunami, the US Military was the one of the first on the scene and the only one with the capacity to coordinate a relief effort on that scale:

    The United States has dispatched numerous C-5 Galaxy and C-17 Globemaster III strategic airlifters and ten C-130 Hercules tactical airlifters containing disaster supplies, nine P-3C Orion maritime patrol aircraft for search and rescue support, and several teams from the Departments of State and Defense to coordinate additional assistance. They are using Utapao Naval Air Base in Thailand as their regional hub. Additionally, the United States has offered assistance from its troops stationed in Japan. USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier battle group, which was in port in Hong Kong, was dispatched to the coast of Sumatra to provide support to the Indonesian province of Aceh. In addition, an Expeditionary Strike Group led by USS Bonhomme Richard, scheduled for a port call in Guam, were dispatched to render assistance. A total of 48 Navy and Marine Corps helicopters are involved. Each ship can produce around 90,000 US gallons (340,000 L) of fresh water per day. The US Navy has also deployed the USNS Mercy, a 1,000-bed hospital ship (to be initially staffed to support 250 patient beds).[122] More than 12,600 Department of Defense personnel are involved in the relief effort, Operation Unified Assistance. USNS Mercy departed San Diego on 5 January 2005 en route to the tsunami-devastated regions of South East Asia, where she provided medical care to the victims of the disaster as part of Operation Unified Assistance, and further care as part of Theater Security Cooperation Program 2005. Combined, she provided 108,000 patient services, rendered by members of the Department of Defense, Project Hope, and the United States Public Health Service.

    If you want real humanitarian assistance, you don't go running to the UN, you look to the US.
    Yes, our military has done some amazing humanitarian missions. However, to dismiss the current state of affairs in the region in regard to Islamofascism, is being reckless. We give the U.N. a lot of taxpayer dollars. It's time they earn them. They are perfectly capable of quarantining villages and teach the locals proper sanitation to stop the spread of the disease. Actually I find it rather a sick joke that 3000 U.S. troops are being sent to the region to quarantine when here in the U.S. the feckless policies of this administration on open borders and our own Centers for Disease Control and Prevention mute on the dangers of all the influx of illegals into this country.
    From the website of the CDC
    A medical examination is mandatory for all refugees coming to the U.S. and all applicants outside the U.S. applying for an immigrant visa. Aliens in the United States who apply for adjustment of their immigration status to that of permanent resident are also required to be medically examined. Aliens applying for nonimmigrant visas (temporary admission) may be required to undergo a medical examination at the discretion of the consular officer overseas or immigration officer at the U.S. port of entry, if there is reason to suspect that an inadmissible health-related condition exists.

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