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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    The US generally militarizes everything. I mean, just look at what occurred after the earthquake in Haiti. We militarized the aid.
    Because it's the best tool for the job? Unless you know of a corps of engineers, medics, nurses, doctors, traffic controllers, security guards, communications experts, etc that are ready to be nationalized en masse every time they need to be deployed (and have the attendant heavy equipment to boot) I'm not sure what else would possibly fit the bill.

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    The President has already spent a quater billion on ebola.

    Yet Boehner couldn't resist a cheap shot saying the President waited too long to act.

    It will never end with these people and good GOPs will never speak back to it .
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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    One minute BO is complaining how the Military is used.....and the next he is all for using Military troops for the Humanitarian reasons. 3000 troops here to go and build a hospital. How about those Humanitarians in Africa and the surrounding countries go and build a hospital.

    Didn't the UN say this was already out of control?
    Oh, I think it's a freaking mess over there. If there's honestly a chance the military can help, I'm all for it. I question the use of the military in such a fashion, but I won't go to the wall if that's the best we can do. I do worry about the result, but I just can't second guess the administration here. Ebola isn't a joke, and if we can contain it, we should.

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    When a guy like Krauthammer doesn't complain like you MMC, but has nothing but praise for what Mr. Obama is doing,
    one really has to wonder where yer coming from--with seven weeks to go .
    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    One minute BO is complaining how the Military is used.....and the next he is all for using Military troops for the Humanitarian reasons. 3000 troops here to go and build a hospital. How about those Humanitarians in Africa and the surrounding countries go and build a hospital.

    Didn't the UN say this was already out of control?
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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Ockham. Yeah.....why aren't those CDC guys going. Also I am sure BO didn't account for any of the money. Just the intention.
    They are. But for some reason they seem to lack a fleet of C-141's capable of bringing in the requisite equipment, aid, sustainment, materials, etc. Additionally, it seems they lack an attachment of engineers used to creating facilities out of nothing at a rapid pace, and not a terribly large corps of linguists. Additionally, the Liberian military is leading the charge there, and we have an ongoing relationship with them. We develop mil-to-mil relationships all over the globe, partly to enable ops like this.

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Next time, you hear BO peep say my military....
    Yet more partisan nonsense connected to a terrible disease. Thanks.


    Did I say we should sit back and do nothing?
    Basically, yes. Since you can't keep track of your own words, in post #14 you said "How about those Humanitarians in Africa and the surrounding countries go and build a hospital. Didn't the UN say this was already out of control?" Later, you insisted that Europe get involved. None of that suggests the US should step up its efforts.


    What you didn't see me agree with another about sending those from the CDC?
    I was responding to post #14. You suggested we send CDC instead in post #19. After taking yet another partisan crack at the President.

    We should also note that the CDC does not have the capability to build mobile hospitals. There is no "Centers of Disease Control Army of Engineers."


    Or asking why they aren't being sent.
    The CDC is already involved. They have around 55 staffers there, and another 350 in the US working on the issue.

    The military is going to coordinate, to build facilities, and to train up to 500 health care workers per week. This includes ACE and medical teams. I really don't see why you're complaining about this, other than "Obama issued an order."


    Well there are a bunch of European countries that just don't have a full plate to deal with.....do you think they can be influenced to get off their ass and do something rather than sit around and hope it don't show up in their country.
    China is sending staff and aid; Britain is sending troops and humanitarian aid to Sierra Leone; Germany, France, EU, Canada, Cuba are all getting involved.

    The international response has not been as strong as it should be, of that there is little question. That does not mean the US should refrain from utilizing the appropriate resources to help fight Ebola.

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    I think anyone thinking of enlisting in the U.S. military should hold off for a little while.

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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    People seemed to buy it for terrorism so why not infectious disease?

    "If we fight it there, we wont have to fight it here."

    The goal is to keep it contained in Africa.
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    Re: Obama to send 3,000 troops to Ebola danger zone

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    Let's see. We'll send 3000 troops to West Africa and hope they don't get sick and die. We'll send 300 to Iraq and hope they don't get shot and die. I thought the purpose of the military is to kill people and break things. Who do we want to kill and what do we want to break in West Africa?
    Are our troops not for defending America?

    What happens to our people and economy when **** like that gets here? Even the serious threat of it here can drastically affect our economy.
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