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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    I'm learning to love ordering on a device rather than talking to a person. At McDonald's it often is someone who doesn't speak my language.

    In my area we have Wawa, a very well run private company that knows how to do a convenience store (and made to order food). Focus on making my food right, not having people take my order. I expect that at a sit down restaurant, not "fast food".

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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    They'll pay them more when Congress gets off its fat ass and increases the Federal minimum wage.
    No, they'll just automate and lay off all of their high-priced workers. Then, instead of making minimum wage, they'll make nothing.
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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I'm learning to love ordering on a device rather than talking to a person. At McDonald's it often is someone who doesn't speak my language.

    In my area we have Wawa, a very well run private company that knows how to do a convenience store (and made to order food). Focus on making my food right, not having people take my order. I expect that at a sit down restaurant, not "fast food".
    If I could get outta paying tips I'd go for the tablet ordering at a sit down restaurant.

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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I'm learning to love ordering on a device rather than talking to a person. At McDonald's it often is someone who doesn't speak my language.

    In my area we have Wawa, a very well run private company that knows how to do a convenience store (and made to order food). Focus on making my food right, not having people take my order. I expect that at a sit down restaurant, not "fast food".
    Agreed. Whenever I go to Lowes or Home Depot or some Walmarts, I always use the automated checkout. I don't have to deal with stupid, slow, obnoxious cashiers who try to sell you things you don't need or want, you can get in, get out and back on the road. Ordering food at a lot of fast food joints is like 20 questions. Do you want this? Do you want that? No, I know what I want, just let me pay for it and get out of here.
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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    'If you’ve ever felt guilty ordering at McDonald’s, the fast-food mega-chain has just the fix: You can now order your own quarter-pound bacon cheeseburger from a welcoming, non-judging machine.

    Battling the worst sales slump in a decade and competition from build-your-own upstarts like Chipotle and Smashburger, McDonald’s is expanding a test concept built around ordering via tablet. Just tap on a screen and watch as your burger’s toppings (and calories) pile on, then wait for an employee to bring it over. No human interaction necessary.

    McDonald’s move towards dehumanization, launched as a pilot last winter and expanded across San Diego last week, is part of a larger trend of chain eateries turning tablets into your full-time restaurant buddy: equal parts menu, server and paycheck. Applebee’s, Panera Bread and even airport bars have installed tablets to allow diners to order food or booze without a wait.'


    McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a machine - The Washington Post


    This is what happens when - among other reasons - you start demanding higher pay then your position is worth (like fast food workers demanding $15/hr.).

    If these fast food workers force Congress to adopt a $15/hr. minimum wage? I guarantee you that the above will be the result...automation and mass layoffs.

    It ain't rocket science people - you are VERY replaceable.


    Yeah, that would be McDonald's.....

    Never mid about the taste, nourishment value, making it easy to order will increase sales.

    They hooked three generations on sugar/fat/carbohydrate levels of addiction and appealing to children, I'm happy to see that they are facing challenges
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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, they'll just automate and lay off all of their high-priced workers. Then, instead of making minimum wage, they'll make nothing.
    They'll automate the day it becomes feasible to do so, regardless of wages, same as employers have done in other industries. $0 per hour and the savings from dealing with a bunch of high maintenance employees with 2 or 300% annual turnover is attractive today. They put up with employees because for now it's very hard to have a machine do the work employees do. Maybe a low minimum wages delays the decision to install the robots that eventually replace humans by a year or two, but I see the choice between a decent wage or getting your job automated out of existence as an almost entirely false choice.

    Besides, what happens when employers pay minimum wages today is taxpayers pick up a lot of the slack with food stamps, Medicaid, etc. Maybe we want to subsidize jobs at McD. I just wish we'd be honest about it and send McD a check for $5 an hour ($10k per year) per employee to cover a minimum wage of $12 or $13. Then the subsidy is explicit and we can all make a decision whether that's a good use of taxpayer money. Instead the worker gets a Medicaid policy that costs $6k, and food stamps, and subsidized housing, free meals for their kids at school, etc.

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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    'If you’ve ever felt guilty ordering at McDonald’s, the fast-food mega-chain has just the fix: You can now order your own quarter-pound bacon cheeseburger from a welcoming, non-judging machine.

    Battling the worst sales slump in a decade and competition from build-your-own upstarts like Chipotle and Smashburger, McDonald’s is expanding a test concept built around ordering via tablet. Just tap on a screen and watch as your burger’s toppings (and calories) pile on, then wait for an employee to bring it over. No human interaction necessary.

    McDonald’s move towards dehumanization, launched as a pilot last winter and expanded across San Diego last week, is part of a larger trend of chain eateries turning tablets into your full-time restaurant buddy: equal parts menu, server and paycheck. Applebee’s, Panera Bread and even airport bars have installed tablets to allow diners to order food or booze without a wait.'


    McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a machine - The Washington Post


    This is what happens when - among other reasons - you start demanding higher pay then your position is worth (like fast food workers demanding $15/hr.).

    If these fast food workers force Congress to adopt a $15/hr. minimum wage? I guarantee you that the above will be the result...automation and mass layoffs.

    It ain't rocket science people - you are VERY replaceable.
    Well I don't think that a 15 dollar/hr minimum wage is responsible for this since it's not aggregated enough to cause it. But in general automation is likely the path to go regardless.
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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    They'll automate the day it becomes feasible to do so, regardless of wages, same as employers have done in other industries. $0 per hour and the savings from dealing with a bunch of high maintenance employees with 2 or 300% annual turnover is attractive today. They put up with employees because for now it's very hard to have a machine do the work employees do. Maybe a low minimum wages delays the decision to install the robots that eventually replace humans by a year or two, but I see the choice between a decent wage or getting your job automated out of existence as an almost entirely false choice.

    Besides, what happens when employers pay minimum wages today is taxpayers pick up a lot of the slack with food stamps, Medicaid, etc. Maybe we want to subsidize jobs at McD. I just wish we'd be honest about it and send McD a check for $5 an hour ($10k per year) per employee to cover a minimum wage of $12 or $13. Then the subsidy is explicit and we can all make a decision whether that's a good use of taxpayer money. Instead the worker gets a Medicaid policy that costs $6k, and food stamps, and subsidized housing, free meals for their kids at school, etc.
    The problem is, we're paying for the utter irresponsibility of these low-wage workers, these are people who are trying to live off of wages never intended to be living wages. These are people who have no education, no experience and no job skills, yet want to be able to raise families off of wages that were never intended to do so. It's not McDonalds that's at fault here, it's the unskilled, uneducated, irresponsible workers to blame, yet nobody ever wants to address that part of it.
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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Just one question: After all of the human workers on this planet are replaced by robots, who will be buying this delicious food?
    Robot repairmen.
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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The problem is, we're paying for the utter irresponsibility of these low-wage workers, these are people who are trying to live off of wages never intended to be living wages. These are people who have no education, no experience and no job skills, yet want to be able to raise families off of wages that were never intended to do so. It's not McDonalds that's at fault here, it's the unskilled, uneducated, irresponsible workers to blame, yet nobody ever wants to address that part of it.
    There will never be a time in any country, ever, without low skill, poorly educated workers. They're in that position for all kinds of reasons, many of them their own doing, many of them factors beyond their control. And if you immediately made every worker in the U.S. skilled and responsible according to your metrics, we'd still need cashiers, McD workers, janitors, yard guys, etc. Millions and millions of them to make the economy hum. Now what are you going to blame for their low wages?

    But the bottom line is I have a hard time calling people WORKING a JOB an example of their "utter irresponsibility" because it's low paid. Not everyone can be above average intelligence, with above average skills making above average wages.

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