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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

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    Again, we're not talking about their total labor costs. We're talking only about the cost of the order takers. The automation of order taking will not eliminate jobs in the kitchen.
    Agreed but since the jobs in those places are like I said modular, and most of the employees are cross trained in all aspects the result of loosing say 1/3rd of the jobs to automation severely impacts those employees who held those jobs. You are basically saying that "eh, doesn't matter, their job is a small part"... I bet they don't look at it that way...
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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

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    You are basically saying that "eh, doesn't matter, their job is a small part"... I bet they don't look at it that way...
    i never said that. I've said nothing about their job security
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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    i never said that. I've said nothing about their job security
    That's not true. You said that a 10% cost for labor wage out of gross is not a large amount, even though it represents a quarter to a third of total labor. If order takers are replaced, a significant portion of labor can (and will be) cut. You claim this isn't significant.
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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

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    That's not true. You said that a 10% cost for labor wage out of gross is not a large amount,
    No, I didn't

    even though it represents a quarter to a third of total labor. If order takers are replaced, a significant portion of labor can (and will be) cut. You claim this isn't significant.
    No, I didn't
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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonzo rodeo
    That's not true. You said that a 10% cost for labor wage out of gross is not a large amount,
    No, I didn't
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    even though it represents a quarter to a third of total labor. If order takers are replaced, a significant portion of labor can (and will be) cut. You claim this isn't significant.
    No, I didn't
    There you go, lying again.

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    10% is not insignificant.
    It's a small fraction.
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    Did you not see the specific breakdown for just cashiers, the position we are talking about eliminating? Or are you intentionally ignoring it because it damages your argument too badly?
    My argument is that it isn't a large share of their expenses, and you have shown that I'm correct
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    You've made the assertion that 10% of gross is insignificant, over and over again. It's not. It's quite significant.
    It is not a large part of their expenses.
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    You mean like the very generous analysis of likely required manning for register shifts (84 man-hours, or 3.5 24-hour shift blocks) which equates to roughly 10% of gross sales, just for wages (not other expenses), that you called not a large part of their expenses?
    Correct. 10% is not a large part of anything
    Then again, it may just be illiteracy. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    There you go, lying again.

    All you did was quote me saying that 10% is not a large part.

    It's not





    Then again, it may just be illiteracy. I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
    The only illiteracy I see is not understanding the difference between "amount" and "part" (or "share") and between "significant portion of labor" and " significant portion of total expenses"
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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    All you did was quote me saying that 10% is not a large part.

    It's not







    The only illiteracy I see is not understanding the difference between "amount" and "part" (or "share") and between "significant portion of labor" and " significant portion of total expenses"
    25% of total labor is a significant portion of labor. 10% of gross revenue is not an inconsequential sum. You can't bring yourself to admit this simple fact. It would be funny, if it weren't so sad...
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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    25% of total labor is a significant portion of labor. 10% of gross revenue is not an inconsequential sum. You can't bring yourself to admit this simple fact. It would be funny, if it weren't so sad...
    I said nothing about "total labor". Your attempt to put words in my mouth is a fail.
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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I said nothing about "total labor". Your attempt to put words in my mouth is a fail.
    Then it's a reading comprehension problem on your part. 10% of total sales approximates 1/3 (cashier force) of 1/3 (total labor cost) of total sales; 1/3 of 1/3 is 1/9, which is pretty damn close to 10% (which is a feasible approximation, since labor cost generally runs in the ballpark of 35%, making 10% generously low at that). This has all been explained to you, several times now.

    I repeat my comment about remedial math with an emphasis on fractions and percentages. And, apparently, reading comprehension.
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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Rodeo View Post
    Then it's a reading comprehension problem on your part. 10% of total sales approximates 1/3 (cashier force) of 1/3 (total labor cost) of total sales; 1/3 of 1/3 is 1/9, which is pretty damn close to 10% (which is a feasible approximation, since labor cost generally runs in the ballpark of 35%, making 10% generously low at that). This has all been explained to you, several times now.

    I repeat my comment about remedial math with an emphasis on fractions and percentages. And, apparently, reading comprehension.
    No matter how you try to spin it, 10% is 10%, and it's a small fraction (1/10 to be exact) of the whole
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