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McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a [W:391]

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Are they limp and soggy with peanut oil or are they crispy....that's all I want to know.

I've been to 2 Five Guys and ate them there... fries have been limp both times.

Ladies NEVER like that.

What if they are lesbians?

;)
 
Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

Are they limp and soggy with peanut oil or are they crispy....that's all I want to know.

I've been to 2 Five Guys and ate them there... fries have been limp both times.

Ladies NEVER like that.

I understand - limp is bad....

But in our location, they're good. Not crispy like McD fries, but the only soggy fries I've had were the ones I took home, and those were 15 minutes out of the fryer before we started eating. In the restaurant, they're usually 10 seconds out when they hand you the bag.

Maybe it's just a preference thing, or maybe our location does something different, but I love them and so does my wife. I had to fast for nearly two days this week for a routine medical procedure, and we went to Five Guys on the way home from the hospital because we didn't have time for a sit down restaurant, it was fast and that's what I was craving.
 
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What? Are 5 Guys fries supposed to be limp and soggy with oil? I've had them twice and they were like that both times. Ugh.

Did you wait until you got home to eat them? They're made with real lard and are delicious.
 
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Did you wait until you got home to eat them? They're made with real lard and are delicious.

Nope, ate them there. Limp. Supposedly they are made with peanut oil.

SOunds good...but still didnt work. Poor.
 
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I do like the idea of the tablet due to the fact people can misunderstand.I know there has been more than one occasion I ordered a unsweetened iced tea and got a sweet iced tea.I can see why restaurants would want these tablets. Waiters can't be everywhere at once and customers might order additional food and drinls if they do not have to wait for their waiter who is currently busy at another table. These companies make billions of dollars even after expenses.So they can afford to pay their employees a little more.

It is very refreshing to hear a self-professed conservative talk like this. :)
 
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why would the employer automate with the intent to use those cost savings to pay its employees a larger wage? profits are what drive business decisions. the employer expects to pay only what the market requires - and no more

My point exactly but someone else tried to say otherwise.
 
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You do realize the scanner is a search, right? Admittedly, I probably shouldn't have separated things like pat downs/bag searches with scanner machines that see through peoples clothes and blasts them with radiation as it puts off the image that one is not a search while the others are.



I don't take showers with dudes, only chicks. If you enjoy showers with dudes, more power to ya. I don't.



People have the right to not consent to having their body seen naked or blasted with radiation. Anyway, it's my time, fuel and property, so I will do with it as I see fit. I enjoyed the trip, which is something that can't be said for a lot of people that went through those machines. In any event, sometimes protests are painful, and I have no other real way to protest than to not use the service. :shrug:

Btw, it does more than just sees your junk, but also sees private information like missing organs, proof of surgery, injuries, etc. There is a great deal of information they pick up with the use of the scan and all of it is private. Btw, the examples I used are protected by law to be private. Just so you know.

If you were ever in sports you couldn't avoid taking showers with other guys. So you were never in sports. No wonder you're so afraid. I'll bet you were one of those guys that got a note from home so you could skip the shower in PE. LOL

And you're on the Internet and you're worried about privacy?

Hey be afraid for all I care. And that radiation you're afraid of doesn't amount to a hill of beans. You get more from the sun driving your car.

"Paranoia strikes deep"
"Into your life it will creep"
"It starts when you're always afraid"
-Stephen Stills
 
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Get your extra big ass fries
 
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You seem to be making two completely separate points. High wages making the vending machines happen... but the story is about slumping sales... which has nothing to do with higher wages. Also, I don't believe they got these higher wages. I think they just requested it.

There have been protests over them you mean. Plus state level legislation in a number of places is already there to be voted on. Businesses are just planning ahead of time because its always better to be early than to be late on these kinds of things. Businesses will try to avoid layoffs if they can but if the government keeps pushing them and forces them to adopt higher wages then automation will be the inevitable consequence in the fast food industry.
 
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If you were ever in sports you couldn't avoid taking showers with other guys. So you were never in sports. No wonder you're so afraid. I'll bet you were one of those guys that got a note from home so you could skip the shower in PE. LOL

Ah, how old are you? Taking showers hasn't been required in schools for decades. When I went to school there was no requirement that people in sports or PE had to take a shower. Guess how many actually did take a shower? None. You might not know this, but showers in schools have been dry for a long time now.

I do however find it funny you are arguing that the government can require people be blasted by radiation to take part in a service.
 
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It is very refreshing to hear a self-professed conservative talk like this. :)

I do not subscribe to the notion that minimum wage is some sort of evil thing. I also realize that without any restraints companies will exploit the desperate.
 
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Ah, how old are you? Taking showers hasn't been required in schools for decades. When I went to school there was no requirement that people in sports or PE had to take a shower. Guess how many actually did take a shower? None. You might not know this, but showers in schools have been dry for a long time now.

I do however find it funny you are arguing that the government can require people be blasted by radiation to take part in a service.


Old enough to know bs when I see it.
 
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There have been protests over them you mean. Plus state level legislation in a number of places is already there to be voted on. Businesses are just planning ahead of time because its always better to be early than to be late on these kinds of things. Businesses will try to avoid layoffs if they can but if the government keeps pushing them and forces them to adopt higher wages then automation will be the inevitable consequence in the fast food industry.

Do you think that if we keep wages at $8 an hour that there will NOT be automation when it's feasible?

And taxpayers are subsidizing the $8 an hour wages with food stamps and Medicaid at least. Whether libertarians and conservatives think we should or not is irrelevant - we are and so with wages at $8 an hour you're paying for an additional $4 an hour or so through taxes. It's good for McD owners to get taxpayers to subsidize their payroll for them, and good for the workers whose kids get health insurance and enough food to eat, but it seems more efficient for the businesses to directly bear the costs of their labor instead of socializing a good chunk of them onto the rest of us.
 
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There have been protests over them you mean. Plus state level legislation in a number of places is already there to be voted on. Businesses are just planning ahead of time because its always better to be early than to be late on these kinds of things. Businesses will try to avoid layoffs if they can but if the government keeps pushing them and forces them to adopt higher wages then automation will be the inevitable consequence in the fast food industry.

What makes you think automation wasn't already inevitable?
 
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Old enough to know bs when I see it.

It's not BS. Schools all across the country stopped requiring students to shower after being sued over the policy. There was a discussion not that long ago where I used to live about even installing showers in a school that was planned to be built. The argument against them was that students never use them, so it's a waste of money to install them.
 
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Do you think that if we keep wages at $8 an hour that there will NOT be automation when it's feasible?

And taxpayers are subsidizing the $8 an hour wages with food stamps and Medicaid at least. Whether libertarians and conservatives think we should or not is irrelevant - we are and so with wages at $8 an hour you're paying for an additional $4 an hour or so through taxes. It's good for McD owners to get taxpayers to subsidize their payroll for them, and good for the workers whose kids get health insurance and enough food to eat, but it seems more efficient for the businesses to directly bear the costs of their labor instead of socializing a good chunk of them onto the rest of us.
Automation is already completely feasible. The only thing keeping it out of restaurants like McDonald's right now is the idea that a human might not be in charge of quality control; i.e. is it a restaurant or a vending machine?

A rollout of an automated process is going to have to come with a very expensive marketing campaign. Nobody wants to be first and take on this cost.
 
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I really like their hotcakes and sausage.

If McDonalds wants to make more money, they should offer their breakfast food all day. It's the only thing I usually buy from them.
 
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What makes you think automation wasn't already inevitable?

Automation will happen if it costs less. Its all about the overhead.

If McDonalds wants to make more money, they should offer their breakfast food all day. It's the only thing I usually buy from them.
Go to Hong Kong- their McDonald's branches serves egg and sausage Mcmuffins 24/7. :chew:
 
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Automation will happen if it costs less. Its all about the overhead.


Go to Hong Kong- their McDonald's branches serves egg and sausage Mcmuffins 24/7. :chew:

Not sure how wide spread the availability is, but here in my area the steak and egg McMuffin is the way to go.
 
Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

Automation will happen if it costs less. Its all about the overhead.


Go to Hong Kong- their McDonald's branches serves egg and sausage Mcmuffins 24/7. :chew:

I'm in Hong Kong right now, in Ma Hang prison serving 2-4 months for 'habitually' chewing gum without a doctor's note.


;)
 
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Automation is already completely feasible. The only thing keeping it out of restaurants like McDonald's right now is the idea that a human might not be in charge of quality control; i.e. is it a restaurant or a vending machine?

A rollout of an automated process is going to have to come with a very expensive marketing campaign. Nobody wants to be first and take on this cost.

There will be quality control - the counter boys and girls will just no longer be viable.

Besides, I would rather punch in my order rather than have to explain my order to someone who hardly speaks English.
 
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If McDonalds wants to make more money, they should offer their breakfast food all day. It's the only thing I usually buy from them.

It's not cost effective, there would be too much waste and the wait for such a meal would defy the idea of "fast food."
 
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From a business standpoint this is a ridiculous move.

The reason McDonalds's sales are slumping is because they have an inferior product as compared to their competition. 5 Guys, In 'n' Out, and others offer a better burger at more or less the same price.

You think 5 guy's is the same price as McD? I mean sure, it's a better burger, but 5 guy's is more expensive too.

No, this is directly related to the $15 per hour crap...You wan't $15, then you will be replaced by Roboburger.
 
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Automation will happen if it costs less. Its all about the overhead.

Yes. And if you were to describe the trend in costs of computer technology, particularly easy-to-use touchscreens and automation, how would you phrase it?
 
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You think 5 guy's is the same price as McD? I mean sure, it's a better burger, but 5 guy's is more expensive too.

No, this is directly related to the $15 per hour crap...You wan't $15, then you will be replaced by Roboburger.

Ten years from now: "You want $10/hour, then you will be replaced by Roboburger."
Twenty years from now: "You want $3.50/hour, then you will be replaced by Roboburger."
Forty years from now: "You want two bowls of gruel a day, then you will be replaced by Roboburger."
 
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