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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Like I said earlier, the 'acceleration' will be IMO small.



    "Promote the modernization..." Sounds good, but means little. You going to teach a person with an IQ of 80 to fix robots?

    And if a person with few skills doesn't catch on, they get to beg, their children go without healthcare, die early of treatable illness or disease, etc.?

    That's what I expected. No attempt to actually have an honest discussion.

    Tell me....what jobs did 80 iq's hold 40-50 years ago?

    They have always been low wage employees...if employed at all

    Certain people with disabilities ....physical or mental will be cared for by the state

    The rest have to do the best they can.....and minimum wage may be the best they can attain

    The higher you make that wage, the fewer of those jobs there will be

    Your choice
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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    In other words, you have no real defense, you're just going to believe what you believe and can't actually argue why it's a valid position. Gotcha.
    No, I just realize there is little point discussing this with someone whose opinion on the poor is "f*ck em." There is no part of that sentiment I agree with, obviously, or I wouldn't donate money or time to help the people about whom you have nothing but contempt. There is no common ground to reach.

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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    Tell me....what jobs did 80 iq's hold 40-50 years ago?
    The minimum wage was during some of that period as high as $10 an hour, more if you believe inflation has been understated for a while. Second, we used to have a lot more production jobs that didn't require any great skill, but were union jobs or paid union equivalent wages with benefits for someone with a HS diploma or less. Those are mostly gone.

    They have always been low wage employees...if employed at all

    Certain people with disabilities ....physical or mental will be cared for by the state

    The rest have to do the best they can.....and minimum wage may be the best they can attain

    The higher you make that wage, the fewer of those jobs there will be

    Your choice
    OK, that's fine, so eliminate or expand EITC? Food stamps? Medicaid? School lunch program for poor kids? Point is I agree the poor will always be with us. Conservatives seem to want to tell me all kinds of reasons why and I don't really care WHY - there are 100 reasons. The question is what to do about them, especially given the trajectory of the economy where the number of those on the bottom are growing, their real wages declining, rising income from productivity increases going to the top slivers, etc.

    One person on here was honest at least and said "F*ck em." If that's the conservative position, great. We'll all know where we stand.

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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Reminds me of grocery store workers and their unions. In my area, it was shortly after they went on strike that you started to see the automated check out thingies. Machines don't want wages above market and free health care.

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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    You should go back to school and study economics instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    I'm a software developer considering going back to school for robotics, it is incredibly interesting to me. Ima put all you suckers out of work too, ha ha ha. No but really this trend is going to be a death knell for people whose jobs are replaced. I truly do wonder what is going to happen to them, regardless of the silly notion that people can just get a better job. Out of twenty people replaced will two or three of them get jobs tending to this new system? What about the other 17?

    The only realistic solution in my mind is a more socialist state where those at the bottom are completely taken care of and working is optional. Oh my... I just felt heads exploding everywhere.

    It can be mitigated somewhat by creating more high end jobs but that can only go so far. The majority of these workers will not be capable of doing anything too technical.

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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    From a business standpoint this is a ridiculous move.

    The reason McDonalds's sales are slumping is because they have an inferior product as compared to their competition. 5 Guys, In 'n' Out, and others offer a better burger at more or less the same price.

    If McD's wants to get back their market share they need to go back to their roots and start offering a marginal burger really, really fast. For decades the whole reason people went to McD's is because by the time you finished ordering your meal was on the tray in front of you. Yeah, the burger had been sitting under a heat lamp for 10 minutes and it really wasn't that great but it was also 29 cents and in your hand damned near before you could blink. They don't need specialty burgers and coffee lounges. They just need clean restaurants and lickity split service with the same old mediocre burgers they've always had.
    Fives guys are way way more expensive then McD, and In Out is just not really that good.

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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    If you're in a job that requires you to wear a name tag and a hairnet and can be replaced by a machine, its time to have frank discussion with yourself .

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Well, let's be honest, the more skilled a person is, the less replaceable they are, so maybe both positions are correct. If McDonalds can get a machine that will do all of the things a cashier can do, and do it more efficiently, with less error and for less money, why wouldn't they automate? Maybe those workers need to be more valuable to their employer? Maybe they need to stop being little more than sacks of meat in a uniform? I was just in McDonalds last night and someone came up to the counter complaining that the drinks coming out of the drink machine didn't taste right and I swear, the cashier looked like a deer in the headlights. They had no clue what to even say. These are not people who are worth minimum wage.

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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by TobyOne View Post
    You should go back to school and study economics instead.
    You should study psychology and learn that most everyone thinks their ideas are the best and that others are inferior.

    There are many top tier and Nobel prize winning economists that support similar notions as I've listed.

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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    All ideas aren't equal. Some are really bad. You seem to have stumbled onto one of them. Also, Paul Krugman has a nobel prize.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    You should study psychology and learn that most everyone thinks their ideas are the best and that others are inferior.

    There are many top tier and Nobel prize winning economists that support similar notions as I've listed.

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    Re: McDonald’s fresh hope to turn around slumping sales: Ordering burgers from a mach

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I'm confused; what does ordering a burger on tablet have to do with minimum wage? This seems a bit of a stretch...
    You need to have your eyes checked.

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