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    Re: Vikings: Adrian Peterson to return

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I had forgotten about that until my husband reminded me over the weekend. It made it even more tragic, after losing one son he could do this to another one. I agree, he might benefit by taking some time off.
    To be fair, the son he lost I believe was one he didn't even know he had until the child died.

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    Re: Vikings: Adrian Peterson to return

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I'm on Janay Rice's side of this, who's side are you on again? And I'm going to just assume you never had parents or are under the age of twenty, because otherwise, you would of had a whipping before.
    That was much more than just a "whipping". The poor kid had welts and cuts all up and down his legs and the photos were taken a WEEK after the abuse happened. You don't do that to a 4 year old. A 4 year old is just a toddler for Christ sake. I'm not saying a kid might not need a swat on the ass from time to time but don't even try to equate what happened here to something that would fall into the realm of accepted parenting practices.

    What happened to that kid is criminal.

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    Re: Vikings: Adrian Peterson to return

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    To be fair, the son he lost I believe was one he didn't even know he had until the child died.
    He found out about it several months prior. I heard an interview he did with ESPN after the loss of his son. I dont doubt his sincerity. I certainly question his judgement. As a father, what part of you (the generic 'you') says its OK to whip a kid all over his body leaving patterned cuts and bruises?

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    Re: Vikings: Adrian Peterson to return

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    We had plenty more info about Rodney King. Having more video with Ray Rice is telling as well. But there really isnt any justification for that kind of a whipping. Come on man....
    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    None of us have all the facts in the Peterson case.
    What I will say is that the kid was FOUR YEARS OLD!!!
    Not beating a FOUR YEAR OLD!!! with a switch shouldn't be considered coddling in any sane person's brain.
    Also, this indictment came down in TEXAS......hardly a bastion of child-coddling I would say.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    That was much more than just a "whipping". The poor kid had welts and cuts all up and down his legs and the photos were taken a WEEK after the abuse happened. You don't do that to a 4 year old. A 4 year old is just a toddler for Christ sake. I'm not saying a kid might not need a swat on the ass from time to time but don't even try to equate what happened here to something that would fall into the realm of accepted parenting practices.

    What happened to that kid is criminal.

    The kid will heal and when he's older, he will be talking about how much he loves his father, and will probably be speaking fondly of his father as well... as has happened for generation after generation. Now if it comes out that there is a history of abuse with the child, then I'll change my views. I went to a private school where they paddled kids, and I got it once because I walked out of class to meet my mother outside, instead of waiting to be called, because she had mystenia gravis and being kept in a hot car for too long was bad for her health. Of course I had to be spanked, even though my mother was on my side. They said to her that if I wasn't punished, I'd be kicked out, so she did it. Unfortunately, her muscles decided that was the time to pop, and instead of a light swat, I had a mark that lasted for a week.

    Look we can argue whether or not it was an effective punishment, and at that age, we can argue that point. But I'm not going to argue malicious intent on AP's behalf, which is what I believe is more important when determining child abuse.

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    Re: Vikings: Adrian Peterson to return

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    The kid will heal and when he's older, he will be talking about how much he loves his father, and will probably be speaking fondly of his father as well... as has happened for generation after generation. Now if it comes out that there is a history of abuse with the child, then I'll change my views. I went to a private school where they paddled kids, and I got it once because I walked out of class to meet my mother outside, instead of waiting to be called, because she had mystenia gravis and being kept in a hot car for too long was bad for her health. Of course I had to be spanked, even though my mother was on my side. They said to her that if I wasn't punished, I'd be kicked out, so she did it. Unfortunately, her muscles decided that was the time to pop, and instead of a light swat, I had a mark that lasted for a week.

    Look we can argue whether or not it was an effective punishment, and at that age, we can argue that point. But I'm not going to argue malicious intent on AP's behalf, which is what I believe is more important when determining child abuse.
    You cant possibly be comparing an out right all over ass whupping to a light swat that lasted a week?

    Come on, man!!!

    Look...lots of parents make in the moment bad decisions that result in charges of abuse. This indict has stuck. Whether the charges will result in a conviction or plea...I dont know. But judge the photos by what they are. We dont have to sit on the jury but we do sit on the court of public opinion. That was abuse.

    I had a foster mother that used to tear into me (literally) with anything at hand. Her weapon of choice was a high heeled shoe. She was by and large a good person and hell...I dont mind saying I have fond thoughts for her. In many ways she was the closest I ever came to having a real parent. Her violent attacks didnt change that, but it was no less abusive.

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    Re: Vikings: Adrian Peterson to return

    The evidence of bloody wounds on the child's body and eyewitness testimony and Peterson's admission .. all is sufficient to indict on child abuse.

    One does not inflict wounds on a child.

    Frequently when such wounds are inflicted, the parent is not providing correction but is venting emotion, and it is the venting of emotion that causes the striking to be excessive sufficient to cause such wounds. When such venting of emotion occurs, the parent is out of control.

    So, according to our laws, Peterson needs to be indicted, etc.

    But, The Vikings and the NFL are, once again, out of line depriving Peterson of his paycheck.

    This is a public matter, the realm of our legal justice system.

    This is not a private (enterprise) matter, the realm of the Vikings and the NFL.

    Peterson should remain with the team, innocent until PROVEN guilty, and, if he's proven guilty and his punishment still allows him the freedom to play for the Vikings, he should be allowed to do so.

    There is no excuse for preventing anyone from earning a living in such a situation as this other than because that person is compelled by our legal justice system to be unavailable.

    If the Vikings want to make him "invisible" for a while, then, if that's justified, they may do so.

    But, not without pay!

    The court of public opinion is looking to punish Peterson, especially the liberal "justices".

    But the court of public opinion is, without question, not a court at all.

    Those wanting to deprive Peterson of his paycheck because they seek vengeance for what was done to them in the past by taking that out on others .. should just shut up and go away, back to their therapist.
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    Re: Vikings: Adrian Peterson to return

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You cant possibly be comparing an out right all over ass whupping to a light swat that lasted a week?

    Come on, man!!!

    Look...lots of parents make in the moment bad decisions that result in charges of abuse. This indict has stuck. Whether the charges will result in a conviction or plea...I dont know. But judge the photos by what they are. We dont have to sit on the jury but we do sit on the court of public opinion. That was abuse.

    I had a foster mother that used to tear into me (literally) with anything at hand. Her weapon of choice was a high heeled shoe. She was by and large a good person and hell...I dont mind saying I have fond thoughts for her. In many ways she was the closest I ever came to having a real parent. Her violent attacks didnt change that, but it was no less abusive.
    Honestly, I think his biggest mistake was using a switch. I think had he of used a paddle or fly swatter, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Forty years ago people would of rolled their eyes at this, but by today's definition I will say that it would classify as abuse. And let's face it, today's society isn't exactly that much more superior to other generations that have come before this was deemed as abuse. I think he should be suspended, I don't think this should cost him the career though like it did with Ray Rice. And unless the mother comes out and says Ray is a horrible father and has a history of this, I don't think it should also cost him his kid.

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    Re: Vikings: Adrian Peterson to return

    Isn't he divorced? Just give mom full custody.

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    Re: Vikings: Adrian Peterson to return

    I bet 1:2 he doesn't play Sunday this evening.
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    Re: Vikings: Adrian Peterson to return

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Honestly, I think his biggest mistake was using a switch. I think had he of used a paddle or fly swatter, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Forty years ago people would of rolled their eyes at this, but by today's definition I will say that it would classify as abuse. And let's face it, today's society isn't exactly that much more superior to other generations that have come before this was deemed as abuse. I think he should be suspended, I don't think this should cost him the career though like it did with Ray Rice. And unless the mother comes out and says Ray is a horrible father and has a history of this, I don't think it should also cost him his kid.
    You simply cannot downplay a kid getting whipped all over his body. I'm not saying he should lose his kid or even his football career. I'm saying he shouldn't escape the legal consequence of committing an act of child abuse.

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