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Obama to detail plans on Ebola offensive on Tuesday: WSJ

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Fox News / Reuters said:
U.S. President Barack Obama is expected to detail on Tuesday a plan to boost his country's involvement in mitigating the Ebola outbreak in West Africa, the Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday.
The plan would involve a greater involvement of the U.S. military in tackling the worst recorded outbreak of the deadly Ebola virus, the Journal reported, citing people familiar with the proposal.
The outbreak has now killed upwards of 2,400 people, mostly in Liberia, neighboring Guinea and Sierra Leone as poorly resourced West African healthcare systems have been overrun.

The U.S. government has already committed around $100 million to tackle the outbreak by providing protective equipment for healthcare workers, food, water, medical and hygiene equipment.
Obama could ask Congress for an additional $88 million to fund his proposal, the WSJ reported. Plan details are expected during Obama's visit Tuesday to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/09/15/obama-to-detail-plans-on-ebola-offensive-on-tuesday-wsj/

Why the U.S. was approached an not the EU? :shrug:

Either way it's a good thing and if there needs to be a coalition of countries to rally around something - this Ebola outbreak is one that has the potential to over-run millions and expand outside of Western Africa. This outbreak needs to be stopped and stopped now. An additional 100 million + 88 million more is a sound investment IMO. I don't often say this but in this case, I support Obama's efforts 100% and hope that the Congress quickly passes whatever is needed to get this going. I am hoping Obama also appeals to the EU and the UN for additional funding - as well as China and Russia. This virus could mutate and get much more deadly as time passes. This is an effort to help the entire human race, not just Liberia or West African nations.
 
Definately best to stop it there.
Obama to detail plans on Ebola offensive on Tuesday: WSJ | Fox News

Why the U.S. was approached an not the EU? :shrug:

Either way it's a good thing and if there needs to be a coalition of countries to rally around something - this Ebola outbreak is one that has the potential to over-run millions and expand outside of Western Africa. This outbreak needs to be stopped and stopped now. An additional 100 million + 88 million more is a sound investment IMO. I don't often say this but in this case, I support Obama's efforts 100% and hope that the Congress quickly passes whatever is needed to get this going. I am hoping Obama also appeals to the EU and the UN for additional funding - as well as China and Russia. This virus could mutate and get much more deadly as time passes. This is an effort to help the entire human race, not just Liberia or West African nations.
 
Where exactly are we getting this 100 million dollars to fight Ebola in Africa? Borrowing it from China? Just printing up an extra 100 mill? Let Africa take care of Africa.
 
Where exactly are we getting this 100 million dollars to fight Ebola in Africa? Borrowing it from China? Just printing up an extra 100 mill? Let Africa take care of Africa.

Sure borrow it from China. Africa cannot take care of Africa (if you read the article you'd know that) and the virus if not contained will spread to other countries. It's more sensible to contain it in Africa than waiting until it comes to America and then addressing the problem. As well, by then it may mutate and be much more difficult to contain.
 
Sure borrow it from China. Africa cannot take care of Africa (if you read the article you'd know that) and the virus if not contained will spread to other countries. It's more sensible to contain it in Africa than waiting until it comes to America and then addressing the problem. As well, by then it may mutate and be much more difficult to contain.

Africa is a mess and if we keep enabling them by riding to the rescue they will never learn to take care of themselves. Let this disease run its course on the dark continent. In countries like the US it will never take hold as it has there where people refuse to not ritually wash their dead no matter what they died from and where they loot blankets from Ebola hospitals. This is a third world disease and we can't afford to bail them out yet again. As of now we are spending million on AIDS there. Enough is enough.
 
Africa is a mess and if we keep enabling them by riding to the rescue they will never learn to take care of themselves. Let this disease run its course on the dark continent. In countries like the US it will never take hold as it has there where people refuse to not ritually wash their dead no matter what they died from and where they loot blankets from Ebola hospitals. This is a third world disease and we can't afford to bail them out yet again. As of now we are spending million on AIDS there. Enough is enough.

This has nothing to do with enabling it has to do with stopping the spread of a virus that has no cure and that is lethal. You're obviously not understanding the big picture and favor a narrow view for some reason. This is not a narrow view issue.
 
This has nothing to do with enabling it has to do with stopping the spread of a virus that has no cure and that is lethal. You're obviously not understanding the big picture and favor a narrow view for some reason. This is not a narrow view issue.

The infected American docs come home and get cured with a new drug so there is indeed a cure but it seems to work best on healthy well nourished first world people. This whole thing is being blown out of proportion by Obama and his media as a distraction from his failed presidency. Don't fall for it.
 
The infected American docs come home and get cured with a new drug so there is indeed a cure but it seems to work best on healthy well nourished first world people. This whole thing is being blown out of proportion by Obama and his media as a distraction from his failed presidency. Don't fall for it.

"there is indeed a cure but it seems to work best for healthy well nourished first world people"

What the flying flipping ****?

Quit the partisan hackery, this is an issue of humanity, a virus, not terrorists, or partisans, or warmongerers. A VIRUS.

Something not of human origin, something malicious beyond all things.

We will eradicate it, but not with that attitude.
 
"there is indeed a cure but it seems to work best for healthy well nourished first world people"

What the flying flipping ****?

Quit the partisan hackery, this is an issue of humanity, a virus, not terrorists, or partisans, or warmongerers. A VIRUS.

Something not of human origin, something malicious beyond all things.

We will eradicate it, but not with that attitude.

With the millions we have spent in Africa on AIDS is it eradicated?
 
With the millions we have spent in Africa on AIDS is it eradicated?

Only a fool would equate Ebola with the always-mutating AIDS.

Terrible analogy, actually, lemme get up my list of fallacies, I'm pretty sure bad analogies is one of the informal logical fallacies.
 
The infected American docs come home and get cured with a new drug so there is indeed a cure but it seems to work best on healthy well nourished first world people. This whole thing is being blown out of proportion by Obama and his media as a distraction from his failed presidency. Don't fall for it.

I wonder if you'd change your tune once it came to our shores and had mutated into a raging pandemic?

Perhaps not until it affected you or a family member?

There is no cure yet. Some promising results but not a sure thing yet.
 
Yet another fund it now an develop a "detailed" plan later affair. It seems to me that the last thing one should do to "help contain" an infectious (incurable?) disease is to increase the number of folks briefly visiting the region. What, exactly, is the national defense/security mission other than to act as a local police force?

the government is turning to DOD because the NGOs that agencies typically work with on the ground have fled.

‘It doesn’t make sense’: Concerns over enlisting DoD in Ebola response | Fox News
 
Only a fool would equate Ebola with the always-mutating AIDS.

Terrible analogy, actually, lemme get up my list of fallacies, I'm pretty sure bad analogies is one of the informal logical fallacies.

So you are really saying a virus does not mutate? Really?
 
This is Fox. Do you really think the same guys that battle terrorist battle viruses?
Yet another fund it now an develop a "detailed" plan later affair. It seems to me that the last thing one should do to "help contain" an infectious (incurable?) disease is to increase the number of folks briefly visiting the region. What, exactly, is the national defense/security mission other than to act as a local police force?



‘It doesn’t make sense’: Concerns over enlisting DoD in Ebola response | Fox News
 
So you are really saying a virus does not mutate? Really?

The rates at which (historically) ebola and AIDS mutate are so polar that Ebola would never mutate even .01 times as fast as AIDS.

Not to mention the way both viruses work are completely different and one virus is clearly as shown through history spread much more easily.

AIDS is still in the USA, Ebola is not, what does that tell you about the two?

Stop comparing apples and oranges.
 
The rates at which (historically) ebola and AIDS mutate are so polar that Ebola would never mutate even .01 times as fast as AIDS.

Not to mention the way both viruses work are completely different and one virus is clearly as shown through history spread much more easily.

AIDS is still in the USA, Ebola is not, what does that tell you about the two?

Stop comparing apples and oranges.



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OK?

spec-spec-spec-spec-speculation time?
 
This is Fox. Do you really think the same guys that battle terrorist battle viruses?

No - and for that very reason they are separate government departments/agencies.
 
You and I know that, Fox seems to have missed it.

But the decision comes as the military is already engaged in counter-terrorism operations in Africa, and as the president expands the campaign in the Middle East against the Islamic State.
From article.


No - and for that very reason they are separate government departments/agencies.
 
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