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Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Bernie Sanders, one of the Senate's leading liberals, said on Sunday he is thinking about running for U.S. president in 2016 as either a Democrat or an independent in a move that could complicate Hillary Clinton's path to the White House.

Not to be outdone by Conservative extremists, Liberals may have an extremist of their own running in 2016. To that I say "Run Bernie Run". This would definitely stop Hillary Clinton from gaining the White House. Her Neoliberal positions are every bit as dangerous as the Neocons were, and to be honest, I would rather see a Republican who is not a Neocon in office over Hillary.

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Liberal? He's a democratic socialist.

No, Sanders wouldn't stand a chance in hell. Unlike Perot or Ralph Nader, the guy would pull far less support.
 
Not to be outdone by Conservative extremists, Liberals may have an extremist of their own running in 2016. To that I say "Run Bernie Run". This would definitely stop Hillary Clinton from gaining the White House. Her Neoliberal positions are every bit as dangerous as the Neocons were, and to be honest, I would rather see a Republican who is not a Neocon in office over Hillary.

Discussion?

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I saw him on Meet The Press this morning, and he all but said he was running.

Do you think he can beat Hillary? He said he thought he could, because she isn't a Progressive or a true Liberal where he is hands down. It was great interview.

I disagree with most of what he stands for, but I do like the guy. Wouldn't vote for him, but I'd love to meet him at a bar, buy him a few drinks and tap his brain. He's a brilliant man, and I have a huge amount of respect for him.
 
Not to be outdone by Conservative extremists, Liberals may have an extremist of their own running in 2016. To that I say "Run Bernie Run". This would definitely stop Hillary Clinton from gaining the White House. Her Neoliberal positions are every bit as dangerous as the Neocons were, and to be honest, I would rather see a Republican who is not a Neocon in office over Hillary.

Discussion?

Article is here.

I can't claim to know what's in the mind of the average liberal/Democrat - some things are impossible to know. But it seems to me that a Sanders candidacy would be similar to the Ron Paul candidacy or Pat Buchanan candidacies on the Republican side. What it will do, in my view, is ruin any chance that Elizabeth Warren would have because her positions would be more linked to Sanders' extremes and Hillary will look more moderate by comparison. In my view, the only way to avoid a Hillary nomination would be to clear the field to the left of Hillary and focus on Warren.

Personally, I want to see Jeb Bush as your next President so anything that helps Hillary is fine with me.
 
Liberal? He's a democratic socialist.

No, Sanders wouldn't stand a chance in hell. Unlike Perot or Ralph Nader, the guy would pull far less support.

I think you'd be surprised. In the Democrat party, he would get a huge amount of support. In the General Election, not so much, but on that I may be surprised as well.

A large portion of the country is turning Socialist. Not enough to turn the government full socialist, but maybe enough to give Bernie a chance in the Democrat primaries.
 
Delusions of grandeur. He, not unlike libertarian leaning republicans, vastly overestimates the support he would garner.
 
I can't claim to know what's in the mind of the average liberal/Democrat - some things are impossible to know. But it seems to me that a Sanders candidacy would be similar to the Ron Paul candidacy or Pat Buchanan candidacies on the Republican side. What it will do, in my view, is ruin any chance that Elizabeth Warren would have because her positions would be more linked to Sanders' extremes and Hillary will look more moderate by comparison. In my view, the only way to avoid a Hillary nomination would be to clear the field to the left of Hillary and focus on Warren.

Personally, I want to see Jeb Bush as your next President so anything that helps Hillary is fine with me.

That's what popped into my mind this morning when I watched him of NBC - how will he deal with Warren and her supporters, that are the same ones he would need to win the nomination.

He did state that he would run as a Democrat, and not as an Independent, if certain things worked out for him to do so. I took from that, that he was talking about Elizabeth Warren.
 
I don't consider Sander's views extreme.

I am annoyed that the mainstream media has annointed Clinton as the next candidate. I support Sanders running against her in the Democratic primary so that the public will be exposed to genuine liberal issues and perspectives, which are rarely heard in the mainstream media.

Unfortunately, the system is rigged so that any liberal third party candidate is only going to hurt the Democrat candidate, so I don't expect to support a run as a third party candidate if the race is close.
 
Not to be outdone by Conservative extremists, Liberals may have an extremist of their own running in 2016. To that I say "Run Bernie Run". This would definitely stop Hillary Clinton from gaining the White House. Her Neoliberal positions are every bit as dangerous as the Neocons were, and to be honest, I would rather see a Republican who is not a Neocon in office over Hillary.

Discussion?

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Found the video from this morning:

 
Bernie is a left wing extremist but the way this country is going he just might have a chance. Then you add to that the fact that the media would support him as they trashed the rep candidate and he may be a shoe in.
 
Liberal? He's a democratic socialist.

No, Sanders wouldn't stand a chance in hell. Unlike Perot or Ralph Nader, the guy would pull far less support.

He know that. He knows he wouldn't stand "a chance in hell". All he's doing is trying to pull Hillary further to the Left.

And I say that as an alternate Washington state delegate for Hillary in 2008. I've still got her old campaign posters downstairs as I type this. I'll eagerly vote for her.
 
I think you'd be surprised. In the Democrat party, he would get a huge amount of support. In the General Election, not so much, but on that I may be surprised as well.

A large portion of the country is turning Socialist. Not enough to turn the government full socialist, but maybe enough to give Bernie a chance in the Democrat primaries.

While most of us Dems would agree with Bernie for what he supports, most of us (including myself) will eagerly vote for her, most of us would prefer to see Bernie Sanders there. He's a good man.
 
Not to be outdone by Conservative extremists, Liberals may have an extremist of their own running in 2016. To that I say "Run Bernie Run". This would definitely stop Hillary Clinton from gaining the White House. Her Neoliberal positions are every bit as dangerous as the Neocons were, and to be honest, I would rather see a Republican who is not a Neocon in office over Hillary.

Discussion?

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"extremist" lol

Even if he somehow won the nomination he would stand no chance. All you have to bring up is that he called himself a socialist and he'll get torn to shreds
 
[...] to be honest, I would rather see a Republican who is not a Neocon in office over Hillary.
Nope, nope... any moderate Republican would be co-opted by Tea Party money/influence before/after the election. Look at how Boehner has become their puppet... hell, Cruz has more influence in the House than he does :shock:

At this point in time it would be dangerous to put a Republican in the White House. Any Republican. After/if the Tea Party self destructs and hard right billionaires stop controlling the GOP, maybe.
 
Hillary is like voting a Moderate Republican into office. Bernie is similar in views to Warren. I would support either of the two latter.
 
I saw him on Meet The Press this morning, and he all but said he was running.

Do you think he can beat Hillary? He said he thought he could, because she isn't a Progressive or a true Liberal where he is hands down. It was great interview.

I disagree with most of what he stands for, but I do like the guy. Wouldn't vote for him, but I'd love to meet him at a bar, buy him a few drinks and tap his brain. He's a brilliant man, and I have a huge amount of respect for him.
An attractive candidate with the most money is the hands down favorite to win the election. It is doubtful Sanders could pull either off; he'd be 75 at election time, another downside (Hillary would be 69). I do like what he has to say, generally speaking. The corporations and the banksters would spend trillions to defeat him. Literally.

His time, or the time for someone like him, has not arrived yet. The populace has not yet been sufficiently abused. Give the righties some time; they'll get them there, and the country will make a hard core lurch to the left with someone like a Sanders or a Kucinich.
 
Some Sanders quotes, just to see where he stands on the issues:

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More Sanders quotes here.

How much of what he says do you actually agree with?
 
Liberal? He's a democratic socialist.

No, Sanders wouldn't stand a chance in hell. Unlike Perot or Ralph Nader, the guy would pull far less support.

i am hoping he takes this opportunity to prove you wrong
very wrong


Americans are looking for a straight shooter who will take on the special interests
 
Not to be outdone by Conservative extremists, Liberals may have an extremist of their own running in 2016. To that I say "Run Bernie Run". This would definitely stop Hillary Clinton from gaining the White House. Her Neoliberal positions are every bit as dangerous as the Neocons were, and to be honest, I would rather see a Republican who is not a Neocon in office over Hillary.

Discussion?

Article is here.

I'm all for it. I love Bernie Sanders. You couldn't possibly find a more honest, straight-forward politician out there. If he runs, I'll be in his camp for sure. He's been saying "maybe" for several months now. Will wait for a commitment.
 
Liberal? He's a democratic socialist.

No, Sanders wouldn't stand a chance in hell. Unlike Perot or Ralph Nader, the guy would pull far less support.

He said he'd run as a democrat. He'd suck it up and join the party and run in the primary against Hilary. Not in the general. So he'd have a much better chance than that list you made.
 
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Delusions of grandeur. He, not unlike libertarian leaning republicans, vastly overestimates the support he would garner.

If by support you mean the money he'd garner... I'd agree. Hilary is going to be a funding machine.
 
Bernie is a left wing extremist but the way this country is going he just might have a chance. Then you add to that the fact that the media would support him as they trashed the rep candidate and he may be a shoe in.

Is it possible you could be any more of a victim than this?
 
Not to be outdone by Conservative extremists, Liberals may have an extremist of their own running in 2016. To that I say "Run Bernie Run". This would definitely stop Hillary Clinton from gaining the White House. Her Neoliberal positions are every bit as dangerous as the Neocons were, and to be honest, I would rather see a Republican who is not a Neocon in office over Hillary.

Discussion?

Article is here.

Go Bernie! I'll vote for you.
 
Bernie's a great guy. I don't agree with all his positions but I do with the majority of them. His voting record and his many terms as a Representative in Vermont have shown that he's willing to follow through on principles that Obama only claimed to hold (and demonstrated that he didn't).

Unfortunately he is exactly what Conservatives fear that Obama is (except for the illegitimate Kenyan thing), so his cross-party appeal would be nonexistent, which is a shame because if just for the civil rights aspect he's better than anybody you'll get...ever.
 
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