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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
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    Doesn't get any more misleading than that. Just because he consistently racked up over a $$$ Trillion debt right out of the box instead of working his way up to over a $$$ Trillion deficit a year is nothing to boast about, it's worse.
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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Doesn't get any more misleading than that. Just because he consistently racked up over a $$$ Trillion debt right out of the box instead of working his way up to over a $$$ Trillion deficit a year is nothing to boast about, it's worse.
    share with us what you find misleading. point out any inaccuracy
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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    share with us what you find misleading. point out any inaccuracy
    You must be joking. You honestly can't figure that out?
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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That sounds to me like a good argument for term limits or for redistricting.

    Maybe for both.
    I advocate eliminating most of the privileges given with seniority in legislative bodies.

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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I advocate eliminating most of the privileges given with seniority in legislative bodies.
    Exactly. A term or two in Congress should be seen as a limited time of public service, and not as a lucrative career as it is now. Money has corrupted our political system just as surely as it did that of the Romans before us, and the same result is likely.
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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I agree with that. It's just that some people don't consider the consequences of their actions. The market is like water, you can't just make it go away, if you restrain it in one place, it'll force it's way somewhere else. Raise the MW too high, jobs get cut that aren't worth that much money.

    I shop at whoever gives me the most for my money, which many times is Walmart, sometimes not. Unions artificially raise prices, so just shopping for the best price helps filter those goods out.
    That's obviously a rational choice. What I don't understand is why as a country we have an industrial non-policy that encourages Walmart to buy from offshored producers. Let's face it, when you buy something made overseas, the effect on the U.S. economy is very small. All the real value was created in the place where the good was made. Some people involved in transportation have a job and some shelf stockers and the cashier, but that's about it. The rest of your money goes to profits which are zipped to NYC or Arkansas. It just makes no sense that our tax and trade laws ENCOURAGE that.

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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Exactly. A term or two in Congress should be seen as a limited time of public service, and not as a lucrative career as it is now. Money has corrupted our political system just as surely as it did that of the Romans before us, and the same result is likely.
    In my state, term limits resulted in an ongoing game of musical chairs with the elected offices, not in eliminating any incumbents. Eliminating the power and privilege given with seniority and ending official recognition of political parties in the legislatures (i.e eliminating positions such as majority or minority leader and giving extra power to the majority party) would be more effective, although very difficult to achieve.

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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    You must be joking. You honestly can't figure that out?
    no. point out the misleading inaccuracy
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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    In my state, term limits resulted in an ongoing game of musical chairs with the elected offices, not in eliminating any incumbents. Eliminating the power and privilege given with seniority and ending official recognition of political parties in the legislatures (i.e eliminating positions such as majority or minority leader and giving extra power to the majority party) would be more effective, although very difficult to achieve.
    Real term limits would have to mean only a limited time in Washington, period. Otherwise, it would be just what you describe, a game of musical chairs.
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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Can somebody blaming Obama for the current deficeit spending explain how the Iraq and Afganistan wars are being paid for? What about the resulting veteran's benefits?
    Trump Attacked A Syrian Airfield. Trump will be a one-term president.

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