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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    We should find out in a few months what America is actually looking for.

    Sorry...Sanders is simply a myopic liberal hack. He doesnt want to stop excessive campaign contributions and involvement, he wants to stop republican donors.
    Uhhh... no. He's for public funding of elections and getting all the big money out of elections.

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    He isnt opposed to bankers and brokers and special interest groups...he is just opposed to the ones that support GOP causes.
    Not even close to true. He thinks the big bank frauds should be in jail.

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    He is no different than all the rich democrats living in their mansions separated from the masses and bemoaning all the 'little people' and how unfair the world is for them.

    That being said...I TRULY hope he does run. It should make for an interesting primary to see which one of their own the democrats start eating because they represent a threat to the party choice. I can see a rerun of 1992. Run Jesse Run!!!
    Where do you get your info on Bernie Sanders? None of that is true.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    I understand that someone could support Sander's views but I just don't understand how you would not consider those views extreme - unless you're just brushing off the extremism of those views because you support them. I mean, I suspect ISIS followers recognized that their own views are clearly out of step with the rest of the world even if they support those views.
    Did you read the Sander's quotes in the OP? He's talking about commonsense equality and justice in a way that is often heard when ordinary people speak. Those ideas are only taboo among politicians afraid of offending their big money contributors and media outlets afraid of losing their advertisers.

    "The goal of real healthcare reform must be high-quality, universal coverage in a cost-effective way."

    "You know, I think many people have the mistaken impression that Congress regulates Wall Street. In truth that's not the case. The real truth is that Wall Street regulates the Congress."

    "I don't believe there's a red state in America where people believe you should cut Medicare, Social Security and veterans' benefits rather than doing away with corporate tax loopholes."

    "Let us wage a moral and political war against war itself, so that we can cut military spending and use that money for human needs."
    Sanders from http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/au...e_sanders.html

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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Try EVERY quote he ever makes on 'the problem'. Oh...he is QUICK to point out the other guys. But he doesnt point out the 'in' crowd.

    Start with his own website.

    What Do the Koch Brothers Want? - Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont

    notice there isnt a link to "George Soros"? Or any other wealthy democrat contributors? PACs?
    That's a load of bull. I listen to him every single week as he appears on a talk show I listen to on Fridays and he's constantly calling out dems who act the same as the GOP fat cat big donor. You are way beyond wrong and are just throwing stones into the darkness with your eyes closed.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Is Bernie Sanders really a socialist?
    When has he advocated the government taking over the means of production?
    He calls himself an independent Democratic Socialist.
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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That's very cool. Diesel or gas/propane?
    Propane, from one each 1,000 gallon and 500 gallon underground tanks that are interconnected. It's a 50Kw generator that has an automatic switch and comes on less then 5 seconds after I loose power, and automatically switches back to shoreline power once it detects the power is back on without any loss of power on the back end. I have certain circuits on a solar powered/rechargeable uninterrupted power source (UPS) that I keep my lights, server, TV's and satellite coms connected to, that keep them going until the generator kicks in so there's no loss of needed power on the front end.

    The longest it's run was almost two weeks during an ice storm. We never noticed any difference. We have two wells for water, a septic system and propane heat so we never lost water, sewer or got cold during the ice storm. It's come on during shorter outages, but nothing more than a couple days at a time. During the two week outage, even with propane heat and the generator using propane, we used less than 100 gallons - so I feel if needed I could go a couple months (or more) without external power if needed.
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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The phrase "mindless partisan hack" came from the post I quoted.

    If he calls himself a socialist, if he's really a socialist, then he must be for the government taking over US industry.
    nahh... he's for a very well regulated capitalism. Not overtaking industry. Like putting glass/steagal back into place for the banks.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Yes, that's old news, and also irrelevant to what I posted about.



    You are trying to make it sound like they are both doing the same thing, which is misleading and untrue. Nobody has ever spent like Obama, and Reagan was the only President to effectively cut government discretionary spending. Since Reagan though, spending has been insane. But Obama is just off the charts. But go ahead and post some misleading information on what a miser Obama is.
    Why would I do that. Obama's not a miser, like Bush before him, he's going to double the ND again, and Reagan tripled it. And yes, both parties do the same thing, and with regards to spending and our debt, both parties own it.
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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I just have no clue how the thinking works that would lead to voting for people like Obama, Sanders, and the like. I mean, how do you even get past the tremendous debt, $$$ Trillions that we can't afford now, and you are thinking it would be good to vote for someone that would continue on that path, only worse?

    Forget the politics, the financials don't work at all. You have to know you would be voting for a terrible outcome down the road.
    Real liberals (like Kucinich, Sanders and only a few others holding federal elective office,) would end the deficit swiftly by eliminating unnecessary expenditures on the drug war, police state and Patriot Act excesses and unnecessary toys, experimental weapon design and building, closing foreign military bases, ending the USA's role as World Police, and ending corruption in government grants, tax breaks, purchasing and contracting....if they can get the legislation passed.

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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Isn't "claims no party" the same as "independent"?

    "Free" child care, health care and college, i.e., paid for by taxes, might just pay dividends in the long run. Income equality isn't possible, but then, we have a huge disparity between the very rich and the very poor, with fewer and fewer in the middle. That just isn't a good economic model. Does he stand for a huge tax increase, then, or for redirecting taxes already collected?
    He's for redirecting taxes collected and closing tax loopholes.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Propane, from one each 1,000 gallon and 500 gallon underground tanks that are interconnected. It's a 50Kw generator that has an automatic switch and comes on less then 5 seconds after I loose power, and automatically switches back to shoreline power once it detects the power is back on without any loss of power on the back end. I have certain circuits on a solar powered/rechargeable uninterrupted power source (UPS) that I keep my lights, server, TV's and satellite coms connected to, that keep them going until the generator kicks in so there's no loss of needed power on the front end.

    The longest it's run was almost two weeks during an ice storm. We never noticed any difference. We have two wells for water, a septic system and propane heat so we never lost water, sewer or got cold during the ice storm. It's come on during shorter outages, but nothing more than a couple days at a time. During the two week outage, even with propane heat and the generator using propane, we used less than 100 gallons - so I feel if needed I could go a couple months (or more) without external power if needed.
    That is really cool Beau. Thanks for sharing that.
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