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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Most sensible and accurate post I've seen on here.
    I'm enjoying you Conservatives/Libertarian-Rights fawning all over a Bernie Sanders thread.
    As if you'd ever give a thought to voting for him.
    Now in Illinois, you could cross-over in the primaries and vote Democratic.
    You'd feel mighty cleansed afterward as I do as a registered Republican .
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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I have personally calculated that I give approximately 50% of what I earn to one tax or another through the chain. How much is ENOUGH?
    I too pay all of the taxes I think I need to pay, thankyouverymuch. How much more are we supposed to pay?

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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I'm enjoying you Conservatives/Libertarian-Rights fawning all over a Bernie Sanders thread.
    As if you'd ever give a thought to voting for him.
    Now in Illinois, you could cross-over in the primaries and vote Democratic.
    You'd feel mighty cleansed afterward as I do as a registered Republican .
    I never said I'd vote for Sanders, did I?

    In NH I can vote for either party too.

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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I find it hard to believe that a progressive actually has a shot at the presidency.... The only hope the democrats have is Billary and she will be a long shot at best, just as long as republicans can find a way to nominate a libertarian leaning candidate.

    IF these clowns even think of nominating a progressive or RINO then they meet the criteria for insanity...... Those philosophies have been tried and failed from both sides. It's time for something new....

    And libertarians really need to stop running and associating themselves with Republicans - that within itself is a good way to destroy your chances....
    Unfortunately, the only way Hillary is going to lose is if Sanders runs as an Independent. That will siphon so much of the Liberal vote that Republicans will win in a landslide. If he doesn't run as an Independent, the GOP is screwed in 2016.
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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I have personally calculated that I give approximately 50% of what
    I earn to one tax or another through the chain. How much is ENOUGH?
    How much is enough with tax breaks for the rich and corporations.
    The very same tax breaks that have the GOP governor in Kansas in deep trouble, not to mention the state's finances.
    Even moderate Republicans as yourself have abandoned Brownback .
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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    A good example of his positions that are an attack on individual liberties and in favor of big government. His statements are the obscenities, not a company that creates thousands and thousands of jobs. They are under no obligation to create higher paying jobs, or pay wages that are higher than the market value of the job. I guarantee that Sanders doesn't go into stores like Walmart and ask to pay more at the register because he wants the employees to make more money.
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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sorry...Sanders is simply a myopic liberal hack. He doesnt want to stop excessive campaign contributions and involvement, he wants to stop republican donors. He isnt opposed to bankers and brokers and special interest groups...he is just opposed to the ones that support GOP causes. He is no different than all the rich democrats living in their mansions separated from the masses and bemoaning all the 'little people' and how unfair the world is for them.

    That being said...I TRULY hope he does run. It should make for an interesting primary to see which one of their own the democrats start eating because they represent a threat to the party choice. I can see a rerun of 1992. Run Jesse Run!!!
    Can't help what you believe, but I've listened to him for years on podcasts, and I'll just say I think he's IMO as principled as anyone up there. Him and Ron Paul have partnered on some legislation and he's been awfully consistent on the issues that I've heard him speak on - very often taking a side against Obama and the democrats.

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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Which is what the right is promoting.
    With the very real possibility of throwing the election into the House.
    Bernie Sanderts is a fabu;lous Senator and should form a third wing/gang in the Senate to bridge the divide.
    Manchin, King and the new dude Orman would be a good four-senator start.
    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Unfortunately, the only way Hillary is going to lose is if Sanders runs as an Independent. That will siphon so much of the Liberal vote that Republicans will win in a landslide. If he doesn't run as an Independent, the GOP is screwed in 2016.
    To be fair to the GOP on the other side, they could also support Rand Paul as 3rd party in 2016 and/or 2020 to help their regular candidate.
    The net effect would be to throw the election into the House--same result as with Sanders.
    Also, look for a renewed effort by GOP controlled purple states like Pennsylvania to go to the Congressional District method of allocating electoral votes .
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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Can't help what you believe, but I've listened to him for years on podcasts, and I'll just say I think he's IMO as principled as anyone up there. Him and Ron Paul have partnered on some legislation and he's been awfully consistent on the issues that I've heard him speak on - very often taking a side against Obama and the democrats.
    How often is "very often"? What 10 key votes did he oppose Obama and the Democrats on?

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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Counterpoint in what way? And what's he stirred up, besides opposition to Hillary Clinton?
    Counterpoint to the trickle down economic theory and to the mantra that to decry the wealth gap is "class warfare" and therefore bad. What has he stirred up? Well, he seems to have stirred up some controversy at least on this forum.
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