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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I don't consider Sander's views extreme.

    I am annoyed that the mainstream media has annointed Clinton as the next candidate. I support Sanders running against her in the Democratic primary so that the public will be exposed to genuine liberal issues and perspectives, which are rarely heard in the mainstream media.

    Unfortunately, the system is rigged so that any liberal third party candidate is only going to hurt the Democrat candidate, so I don't expect to support a run as a third party candidate if the race is close.
    I understand that someone could support Sander's views but I just don't understand how you would not consider those views extreme - unless you're just brushing off the extremism of those views because you support them. I mean, I suspect ISIS followers recognized that their own views are clearly out of step with the rest of the world even if they support those views.

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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    If people think this (below) is political extremism, then they ought to check their own extremism at the opposite end of the spectrum.

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    "Starvation wages"? Seriously?

    Wal-Mart provides benefits. And lots of jobs.

    Who cares if the Waltons are wealthy?

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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    While I don't agree with a lot of what he says, he's a good counterpoint to a lot of the nonsense that has been going on in Washington lately.

    I'm not so sure I'd vote for him as president, but it's good we have a few like him in Congress, just to keep things stirred up.
    Counterpoint in what way? And what's he stirred up, besides opposition to Hillary Clinton?

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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'd probably vote for him. we've had so much trickle down nonsense over the past thirty years that a term or two of him would be a nice countersteer. also, he votes against war, voted against the patriot act, and supports single payer. sounds good to me.
    I just have no clue how the thinking works that would lead to voting for people like Obama, Sanders, and the like. I mean, how do you even get past the tremendous debt, $$$ Trillions that we can't afford now, and you are thinking it would be good to vote for someone that would continue on that path, only worse?

    Forget the politics, the financials don't work at all. You have to know you would be voting for a terrible outcome down the road.
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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    I believe Sanders has said he would consider running as a Democrat.

    He and Elizabeth Warren have to be an absolute nightmare for Hillary Clinton. She's undoubtedly going to cast herself as a middle class moderate from middle America and to have those two socialists pull her far to the left to get the Democrat nomination will almost certainly mean a Republican in 2016. This is basically the same issue Republicans have had with the Tea Party except if it's a choice between less government and socialism independents and moderate Democrats too will vote for less government.
    Most sensible and accurate post I've seen on here.

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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    America's senator, and the most polite talk show host on the radio.
    He's still wrong no matter how polite you think he is.
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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I don't watch that, never heard of Thom Hartmann in fact. Sounds like one of those left wing drivel sorts of shows.
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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I just have no clue how the thinking works that would lead to voting for people like Obama, Sanders, and the like. I mean, how do you even get past the tremendous debt, $$$ Trillions that we can't afford now, and you are thinking it would be good to vote for someone that would continue on that path, only worse?
    Put simply, individual taxes need to go up, we need to end the wars, and we have to make addressing the debt a priority. Any austerity should not be one sided, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Forget the politics, the financials don't work at all. You have to know you would be voting for a terrible outcome down the road.
    I don't agree that a counter steer after three decades of the trickle down experiment guarantees disaster.

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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Republicans would love to see a real liberal run as badly as I want to see Ted Cruz run.
    Talk about handing them 2016 on a platter.

    This is the same mentality that led over 53,000 Florida voters to vote for Ralph Nader third party in 2000 and we all know what that gave us.
    If you think eight more years of next generation GWB is acceptable, go for it.

    Meanwhile, you've already bit on the bait I've been watching these guys put in the trap since I was 14-YO during 1968.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    A lot of us would like to get a real liberal in office instead of the same old Clinton/Obama style centrist we have gotten.
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    Re: Liberal Vermont Senator Sanders may seek U.S. presidency in 2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Put simply, individual taxes need to go up, we need to end the wars, and we have to make addressing the debt a priority. Any austerity should not be one sided, though.



    I don't agree that a counter steer after three decades of the trickle down experiment guarantees disaster.
    I have personally calculated that I give approximately 50% of what I earn to one tax or another through the chain. How much is ENOUGH?
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