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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    they are following the will of this book apparently.


    http://azelin.files.wordpress.com/20...-will-pass.pdf
    Just as I guessed.

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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The Latin cartels continue to grow and expand now into the US because people continue to allow them to. Brilliant maneuver, that whole ignore them and hoping they will go away tactic. Makes it difficult to breath what with sand in your nostrils and all.
    The question is always will military action make things better in the end or worse. Had we never went into Iraq and continued the policy of containment, there would be no ISIS today, Iran would not be resurgent, Syria would not be in the middle of a brutal civil war, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians would still be alive, thousands of American serviceman would still be alive, and we would not have spent over a trillion dollars.

    So, the question now is, what will be the result of going back into Iraq? It may be a hell of a lot worse than ISIS.
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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You quantify heroism based on the quality of life? What is YOURS worth? Should rescue personnel assess that before they decide to help you, heaven forbid you need it?
    Yes, if I were a drug-addict or a murderer or a thief or a terrorist they should decide whether they want to rescue me or not.

    You can quantify my life, maybe even being an asshole can be plugged into the "should I be saved?" equation.
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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    Quote Originally Posted by GBFAN View Post
    I don't think you can attribute it to that ... this is an attempt by ISIS to say 'We are serious about this, and you should just go home, because you've proven you aren't serious. How many are you willing to allow die before you acquiesce, pack your bags, and go home?"
    If that is the case it is a serious miscalculation. But then these idiots have a pattern of miscalculating the resolve of the west when they get our dander up. Ask Saddam, Bin Laden, and many of the big players in Al Queda who are eating dust or are fish feed.

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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    At some point, you should realize a region is dead and leave it to die.

    If you go to aid suffering people there while knowing these guys are out and about you receive none of my sympathies.

    What he did was righteous, wonderful, but this was expected. Only a foolish Westerner outside of a military would be in that region of the ME.
    Do you feel the same about US inner city neighborhoods that are being overtaken by street gangs? Should we simply declare them "tribal zones" and post keep out signs? The problem, as I see it, is "that region" is rapidly expanding and will continue to do so with your plan to avoid interfering in the affairs of "others".
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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    The question is always will military action make things better in the end or worse. Had we never went into Iraq and continued the policy of containment, there would be no ISIS today, Iran would not be resurgent, Syria would not be in the middle of a brutal civil war, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians would still be alive, thousands of American serviceman would still be alive, and we would not have spent over a trillion dollars.

    So, the question now is, what will be the result of going back into Iraq? It may be a hell of a lot worse than ISIS.
    Al Qaida would have still been Al Qaida and would still be committing attrocities throughout the world. This mindset that somehow the US caused the **** to stink is just foolish. Fundamentlaist extremism has ALWAYS existed. Muslim countries combat it regularly and always have.

    Tell me...since you brought up the Cartels doing the same thing...do you think it is the US's fault they exist? Did we cause THEM too? Or could it be that there have always been scum like that (history is filled with brutal groups...I guess they must have all been caused by the US too), they ahve always used brutality and horror to achieve their gains, and the only way to stop them is to stomp them.

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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Yes, if I were a drug-addict or a murderer or a thief or a terrorist they should decide whether they want to rescue me or not.

    You can quantify my life, maybe even being an asshole can be plugged into the "should I be saved?" equation.
    Based on your current responses, if that were the case I wouldnt bother making the phone call if I was you.

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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    My point was don't go snooping around the M.E. alone...or you might lose your head.

    And I happen to think the U.S. should mind it's own business and stay away from the M.E..
    Pandora's box has been opened. We can't stay away now. We broke it we need to fix it if we even can. Leaving the mideast would only cause us to be chided as cowards.

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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    These killings are a retaliation for Western airstrikes. Pretty obvious, really.
    The only thing obvious is that you are always right there to offer simple minded explanations that transfers blame away from Islamists and on to the west.

    If you hate your own culture so much, why are you still living there?
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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You mean the richest terrorist group in existence can't afford anything more than a knife?

    Where do you get your information?
    At teenagersstickingittotheman.com?
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