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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    And the moral is...

    ...if you are non-Middle Eastern, stay the 'f' away from the Middle East...no matter how innocent your intentions.

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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    Quote Originally Posted by aseidner View Post
    ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines - CNN.com

    Absolutely sickening. Whatever their 'cause' may be, their continued displays of barbarism further solidify ISIS's status as subhuman filth. The guy tries to help those who are suffering in the region and gets his head cut off as a result. Sometimes I feel that the ME is truly hopeless.
    It's as if they are suicidal masochists and only understand brutality they carry out or directed against them.

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    And the moral is...

    ...if you are non-Middle Eastern, stay the 'f' away from the Middle East...no matter how innocent your intentions.
    The general thought process is the direct opposite - claims are being made that these executions are to entice the west back into the ME. I find it amusing how some think that ignoring or retreating away from these people will somehow calm them and conversely, engaging them creates more terrorists.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's as if they are suicidal masochists and only understand brutality they carry out or directed against them.



    The general thought process is the direct opposite - claims are being made that these executions are to entice the west back into the ME. I find it amusing how some think that ignoring or retreating away from these people will somehow calm them and conversely, engaging them creates more terrorists.
    My point was don't go snooping around the M.E. alone...or you might lose your head.

    And I happen to think the U.S. should mind it's own business and stay away from the M.E..

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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    And the moral is...

    ...if you are non-Middle Eastern, stay the 'f' away from the Middle East...no matter how innocent your intentions.
    And yet ISIS have also murdered thousands of middle eastern civilians and continue to do so DA60.

    David Haines knew the risks involved when he went there. He had a passion for humanitarian work and he chose to undertake that work to try and assist the ordinary civilians there. Unfortunately that cost him his life. That's also a risk he was clearly prepared to take.

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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    I hope that Haines's beheading serves to turn world opinion even more strongly against ISIS.

    "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    My point was don't go snooping around the M.E. alone...or you might lose your head.
    OK.

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    And I happen to think the U.S. should mind it's own business and stay away from the M.E..
    And how does that prevent, stop or deter terrorists from coming to the US and killing us here?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I find it amusing how some think that ignoring or retreating away from these people will somehow calm them and conversely, engaging them creates more terrorists.
    This is not an easy solution. Having seen them kill two American journalists do we attack and possibly lose 3,000 American soldiers? Or do we come home and for once have real borders and real customs and immigration process at US airports?

    If we do go over to fight them militarily unless we kill every member and every member's relative we will still be vulnerable to a low tech terrorist attack in the US. The 9-11 attack shows with only a few terrorists and razor cutters you can severely hurt one of the most powerful nations in the world.

    There is no correct answer but why is every problem in the world suddenly our problem.

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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    And yet ISIS have also murdered thousands of middle eastern civilians and continue to do so DA60.

    David Haines knew the risks involved when he went there. He had a passion for humanitarian work and he chose to undertake that work to try and assist the ordinary civilians there. Unfortunately that cost him his life. That's also a risk he was clearly prepared to take.
    The guy was stupid.

    The guy had a four year old daughter...she should have been his first priority, not running around the Middle East in a dangerous fashion playing Robin Hood.
    He should have stayed home, helped raise his daughter and volunteered for local charities.

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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    At some point, you should realize a region is dead and leave it to die.

    If you go to aid suffering people there while knowing these guys are out and about you receive none of my sympathies.

    What he did was righteous, wonderful, but this was expected. Only a foolish Westerner outside of a military would be in that region of the ME.
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    Re: ISIS appears to execute British aid worker David Haines

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    This is not an easy solution. Having seen them kill two American journalists do we attack and possibly lose 3,000 American soldiers? Or do we come home and for once have real borders and real customs and immigration process at US airports?

    If we do go over to fight them militarily unless we kill every member and every member's relative we will still be vulnerable to a low tech terrorist attack in the US. The 9-11 attack shows with only a few terrorists and razor cutters you can severely hurt one of the most powerful nations in the world.

    There is no correct answer but why is every problem in the world suddenly our problem.
    "Unless you kill every member and every member's relative"

    hehehehehe nukes.
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