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    Pennsylvania teen faces two years in prison for taking a picture with Jesus

    Picture at the link.

    EVERETT, Pennsylvania (KRON) — A Pennsylvania teenager is facing criminal charges after posting pictures to Facebook of him simulating a sex act with a statue of Jesus.

    The young man posted that he took the pictures in late July at the statue of a kneeling Jesus in front of the “Love in the Name of Christ” Christian organization in his hometown of Everett.

    The criminal charge, which will be heard in family court, consists of “Desecration of a Venerated Object.”

    Pennsylvania law defines desecration as “Defacing, damaging, polluting or otherwise, physically mistreating in a way that the actor knows will outrage the sensibilities of persons likely to observe or discover the action.”

    The teen, whose name has not been released, could face up to two years in a juvenile jail if convicted.
    Now, the picture is dumb. But if it's worthy of prosecution, then half of the musical artists I listen to would probably go to prison for producing visual works that would "outrage the sensibilities of persons likely to observe or discover the action": Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Ministry, Swans, Godflesh, Big Black, Marilyn Manson, you name it. This law could basically outlaw carte blanche a certain type of 'blasphemous' musical genre. It's dangerous and ought to be stricken from the books.

    Also, fundamentalist Christians are easily the most politically correct, 'sensitive' mass interest group in America. Holy ****, cry more.

    I wouldn't care if the organization on whose property the statue was pressed trespassing charges on the kid, though even then it'd be kind of petty to do over a picture. But this law is basically a "don't offend the religious sensibility of the majority" law.

    Also, it looks like it's possible that the law the teen was charged under was ruled unconstitutional in 2010:

    http://www.paed.uscourts.gov/documen...s/10D0634P.pdf

    The American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania filed suit on February 18, 2009, on behalf of George Kalman, a filmmaker who was prevented from incorporating his business under the name of his choice because it violates a Pennsylvania statute that prohibits corporate names containing “words that constitute blasphemy…or that profane the Lord’s name.”

    Kalman, a Downingtown resident, is the founder and CEO of a film production company called “I Choose Hell Productions.” In late 2007, Kalman applied to the Pennsylvania Department of State Corporation Bureau for a certificate of organization for his business. His application was rejected because the “entity name may not contain words that constitute blasphemy, profane cursing or swearing or that profane the Lord’s name,” a direct quote from a Pennsylvania statute.

    The statute is unconstitutional because the commonwealth relies on a religious standard to determine if a business name is acceptable or not. It also violates Kalman’s free speech rights by allowing anonymous government officials to refuse business names that offend them.

    Kalman says he chose the name of his production company because he believes it expresses his personal philosophy that it is better to struggle through difficult times in life than to commit suicide, even if life is “hell.”

    The specific Pennsylvania statue in question is § 1303(c)(2)(ii) of Title 15 of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes.

    On June 30, 2010, the court struck down the statute as unconstitutional.
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    Re: Pennsylvania teen faces two years in prison for taking a picture with Jesus

    He was charged under a different law, it's covered in the other thread we have in this:

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Desecration or sale of venerated objects - 18 Pa. Cons. Stat. § 5509 - Pennsylvania Attorney Resources - Pennsylvania Laws

    Pennsylvanian Law:
    § 5509. Desecration or sale of venerated objects.
    (a) Offense defined.--A person commits a misdemeanor of the
    second degree if he:
    (1) intentionally desecrates any public monument or
    structure, or place of worship or burial;
    (2) if he intentionally desecrates any other object of
    veneration by the public or a substantial segment thereof in
    any public place; or...


    ...(b) Definitions.--As used in this section, the following
    words and phrases shall have the meanings given to them in this
    subsection:
    "Desecrate." Defacing, damaging, polluting or otherwise
    physically mistreating in a way that the actor knows will
    outrage the sensibilities of persons likely to observe or
    discover the action.
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    Re: Pennsylvania teen faces two years in prison for taking a picture with Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Picture at the link.



    Now, the picture is dumb. But if it's worthy of prosecution, then half of the musical artists I listen to would probably go to prison for producing visual works that would "outrage the sensibilities of persons likely to observe or discover the action": Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Ministry, Swans, Godflesh, Big Black, Marilyn Manson, you name it. This law could basically outlaw carte blanche a certain type of 'blasphemous' musical genre. It's dangerous and ought to be stricken from the books.

    Also, fundamentalist Christians are easily the most politically correct, 'sensitive' mass interest group in America. Holy ****, cry more.

    I wouldn't care if the organization on whose property the statue was pressed trespassing charges on the kid, though even then it'd be kind of petty to do over a picture. But this law is basically a "don't offend the religious sensibility of the majority" law.

    Also, it looks like it's possible that the law the teen was charged under was ruled unconstitutional in 2010:

    http://www.paed.uscourts.gov/documen...s/10D0634P.pdf
    It should be unconstitutional. We do not have hate speech laws nor do we punish people for being blasphemous.Those are things Eurotrash and Islamofascist countries do.
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    Re: Pennsylvania teen faces two years in prison for taking a picture with Jesus

    It's a disgusting picture taken of/by a stupid kid, but illegal? Why? Did he really "desecrate" the statue? Wouldn't that have involved some sort of vandalism or damage to it?
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    Re: Pennsylvania teen faces two years in prison for taking a picture with Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It's a disgusting picture taken of/by a stupid kid, but illegal? Why? Did he really "desecrate" the statue? Wouldn't that have involved some sort of vandalism or damage to it?
    Not under Pennsylvanian law.
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    Re: Pennsylvania teen faces two years in prison for taking a picture with Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Not under Pennsylvanian law.
    Then the law needs to be changed.
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    Re: Pennsylvania teen faces two years in prison for taking a picture with Jesus

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    Force the people in pennsyvania who support this to PAY for his 2 year stay in prison.
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    Re: Pennsylvania teen faces two years in prison for taking a picture with Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Then the law needs to be changed.
    Yes it does.
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    Re: Pennsylvania teen faces two years in prison for taking a picture with Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    He was charged under a different law, it's covered in the other thread we have in this:

    The statute you quote would seem to apply a person's own property. That alone I think makes it questionably legal. Additionally did the kid "physically mistreat" the statute?
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    Re: Pennsylvania teen faces two years in prison for taking a picture with Jesus

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It's a disgusting picture taken of/by a stupid kid, but illegal? Why? Did he really "desecrate" the statue? Wouldn't that have involved some sort of vandalism or damage to it?
    That is what I am wondering. This shouldn't be desecration. I can't agree. It was a stupid and disrespectful act. And he deserved to be punched or something like that (for being disrespectful) and not by the government. But jail time? Not a chance.
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