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    Re: How foreign fighters are swelling ISIS ranks in startling numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    My only concern at the present is Pakistan. No one wants radical Islamist to have a nuke. Beyond that radical Islam is going to have to be defeated internally unless the plan is "kill everybody and let God sort them out".

    You well know, my friend, that in asymmetric warfare, whiz bang weapons are awesome but they cannot win the war. We cannot drone ISIS into submission. Never happen. There is a point where whiz bang works against us as it becomes the great recruiter for the other side. Ain't no way the West can bomb ISIS into oblivion.

    As far as I am concerned as long as the West keeps ISIS out of Pakistan and trains/provides support for regional nations it will be OK.


    Pakistan huh.....yeah that's one place where they have been picking up supporters. These guys are more sophisticated than people are giving them credit for.


    After Syria and Iraq, Islamic State makes inroads in South Asia.....

    PESHAWAR/DERA ISMAIL KHAN Pakistan (Reuters) - Islamic State pamphlets and flags have appeared in parts of Pakistan and India, alongside signs that the ultra-radical group is inspiring militants even in the strongholds of the Taliban and al Qaeda. A splinter group of Pakistan's Taliban insurgents, Jamat-ul Ahrar, has already declared its support for the well-funded and ruthless Islamic State fighters, who have captured large swathes of territory in Iraq and Syria in a drive to set up a self-declared caliphate. "IS (Islamic State) is an Islamic Jihadi organization working for the implementation of the Islamic system and creation of the Caliphate," Jamat-ul Ahrar's leader and a prominent Taliban figure, Ehsanullah Ehsan, told Reuters by telephone. "We respect them. If they ask us for help, we will look into it and decide."

    Seeking to boost its influence in the Afghanistan-Pakistan region, a local cell with allegiance to Islamic State has been distributing pamphlets in the Pakistani city of Peshawar and eastern Afghanistan in the past few weeks, residents said. The 12-page booklet called "Fatah" (Victory), published in the Pashto and Dari languages of Afghanistan, was being mainly distributed in Afghan refugee camps on the outskirts of Peshawar. The pamphlet’s logo features an AK-47 assault rifle and calls on local residents to support the militant group. Cars with IS stickers have also been spotted around Peshawar. Sameeulah Hanifi, a prayer leader in a Peshawar neighborhood populated mainly by Afghans, said the pamphlets were being distributed by a little-known local group called Islami Khalifat, an outspoken Islamic State supporter.....snip~

    After Syria and Iraq, Islamic State makes inroads in South Asia


    The funny thing is.....BO also knows AQ has moved back into Afghanistan to, and this is due to BO and his own actions leading to his own failures.

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    Re: How foreign fighters are swelling ISIS ranks in startling numbers

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    Pakistan huh.....yeah that's one place where they have been picking up supporters. These guys are more sophisticated than people are giving them credit for.


    After Syria and Iraq, Islamic State makes inroads in South Asia.....

    PESHAWAR/DERA ISMAIL KHAN Pakistan (Reuters) - Islamic State pamphlets and flags have appeared in parts of Pakistan and India, alongside signs that the ultra-radical group is inspiring militants even in the strongholds of the Taliban and al Qaeda. A splinter group of Pakistan's Taliban insurgents, Jamat-ul Ahrar, has already declared its support for the well-funded and ruthless Islamic State fighters, who have captured large swathes of territory in Iraq and Syria in a drive to set up a self-declared caliphate. "IS (Islamic State) is an Islamic Jihadi organization working for the implementation of the Islamic system and creation of the Caliphate," Jamat-ul Ahrar's leader and a prominent Taliban figure, Ehsanullah Ehsan, told Reuters by telephone. "We respect them. If they ask us for help, we will look into it and decide."

    Seeking to boost its influence in the Afghanistan-Pakistan region, a local cell with allegiance to Islamic State has been distributing pamphlets in the Pakistani city of Peshawar and eastern Afghanistan in the past few weeks, residents said. The 12-page booklet called "Fatah" (Victory), published in the Pashto and Dari languages of Afghanistan, was being mainly distributed in Afghan refugee camps on the outskirts of Peshawar. The pamphlet’s logo features an AK-47 assault rifle and calls on local residents to support the militant group. Cars with IS stickers have also been spotted around Peshawar. Sameeulah Hanifi, a prayer leader in a Peshawar neighborhood populated mainly by Afghans, said the pamphlets were being distributed by a little-known local group called Islami Khalifat, an outspoken Islamic State supporter.....snip~

    After Syria and Iraq, Islamic State makes inroads in South Asia


    The funny thing is.....BO also knows AQ has moved back into Afghanistan to, and this is due to BO and his own actions leading to his own failures.
    If they make you CIC tomorrow morning what would your plan of action be:

    1. Ramp up for a protracted ground war in the region?

    2. More advisors to the (semi, part-time) friendly nations in the region?

    3. Arms shipment in mass quantities?

    5. Make a lake out of the Middle East?

    6. Slime the Middle East with a sustained bombardment of lard rockets?

    7. All of the above?










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    Re: How foreign fighters are swelling ISIS ranks in startling numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    If they make you CIC tomorrow morning what would your plan of action be:

    1. Ramp up for a protracted ground war in the region?

    2. More advisors to the (semi, part-time) friendly nations in the region?

    3. Arms shipment in mass quantities?

    5. Make a lake out of the Middle East?

    6. Slime the Middle East with a sustained bombardment of lard rockets?

    7. All of the above?



    Outside of Nukes.....I would first order that all associations with middlemen be immediately stopped. As this is more than likely a 2 way communication broadcast. I would order all intel agencies on orders Shoot to kill any of these Terrorists on Sight. Send in Mercs, Bounty Hunters, and Assassins. This all with Airstrikes and mobilizing Special Forces for Specifics strikes going after all their communications. Take out any Sats they use. Shutdown their use of social media. Go after those printing their propaganda. Jam phones and any communications.

    Also I would order our US hackers to wipe accounts out of those funding them. By name and even if they are in government. Also I would take all those in Prison for life and on Death row.....I would give them a shot for Amnesty. Release them armed over there and tell them do what you gotta do. Which means killing these Terrorists on sight and anywhere they are. As they will be coming for you. Survive.....freedom is yours. Over there.....for the rest of your days. Hunt them down.....all of them. Even telling organized crime to go after them.

    Naturally I would have talked with other countries and emphasized how this is an everyone problem. Using others Militaries too.

    Also.....I would give a message to the poor. 75k US Dollar for each dead terrorist brought to me. 10 million poor people all looking for away out of poverty. These Terrorist are done within a year. Obliterated. Which Naturally after my first term I won't run for another. Just the one and done. Honest!

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    Re: How foreign fighters are swelling ISIS ranks in startling numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    All of ISIS couldn't make it through 10 miles of Texas on a Saturday night.
    Whatever helps you sleep at night, bud.
    Meanwhile, the rest of us know the truth: The border is unsecure and Obama doesn't give a ****.

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    Re: How foreign fighters are swelling ISIS ranks in startling numbers

    I cannot help think that somehow or other, this whole ISIS thing comes across as "we are being spun to death" thing.

    That, because the story is so complete in detail. Suddenly, they know everything about them, while for the last year they've said nothing about them.

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    Re: How foreign fighters are swelling ISIS ranks in startling numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Outside of Nukes.....I would first order that all associations with middlemen be immediately stopped. As this is more than likely a 2 way communication broadcast. I would order all intel agencies on orders Shoot to kill any of these Terrorists on Sight. Send in Mercs, Bounty Hunters, and Assassins. This all with Airstrikes and mobilizing Special Forces for Specifics strikes going after all their communications. Take out any Sats they use. Shutdown their use of social media. Go after those printing their propaganda. Jam phones and any communications.

    Also I would order our US hackers to wipe accounts out of those funding them. By name and even if they are in government. Also I would take all those in Prison for life and on Death row.....I would give them a shot for Amnesty. Release them armed over there and tell them do what you gotta do. Which means killing these Terrorists on sight and anywhere they are. As they will be coming for you. Survive.....freedom is yours. Over there.....for the rest of your days. Hunt them down.....all of them. Even telling organized crime to go after them.

    Naturally I would have talked with other countries and emphasized how this is an everyone problem. Using others Militaries too.

    Also.....I would give a message to the poor. 75k US Dollar for each dead terrorist brought to me. 10 million poor people all looking for away out of poverty. These Terrorist are done within a year. Obliterated. Which Naturally after my first term I won't run for another. Just the one and done. Honest!
    Let us agree to disagree. Other than protecting the Pakistani nuke I'd pull up stakes, say adios and get the **** out. All troops go home. That's a start.

    ISIS cannot be irradiated. And if it could there would be another group in its place. Is Al Qaeda still around? The Taliban? You damn skippy they are.

    I would reduce as much as possible their reason for hating the West. I'd take the American presence out of the region. I know, I know - what about Israel. Sorry, Israel but you are going to have to learn to negotiate peace.

    Certainly, I would want to continue to protect the US against foreign attacks and attackers. The idea that we are in the Middle East to "defend our freedom" is nothing but propaganda.










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    Re: How foreign fighters are swelling ISIS ranks in startling numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Let us agree to disagree. Other than protecting the Pakistani nuke I'd pull up stakes, say adios and get the **** out. All troops go home. That's a start.

    ISIS cannot be irradiated. And if it could there would be another group in its place. Is Al Qaeda still around? The Taliban? You damn skippy they are.

    I would reduce as much as possible their reason for hating the West. I'd take the American presence out of the region. I know, I know - what about Israel. Sorry, Israel but you are going to have to learn to negotiate peace.

    Certainly, I would want to continue to protect the US against foreign attacks and attackers. The idea that we are in the Middle East to "defend our freedom" is nothing but propaganda.

    Well, you did ask what I would do.....I didn't say it would be PC to do. Plus I would play to win. But, what I described would work.....and they would be Obliterated. If they can't communicate and get their word out and their numbers are reduced to so few. None will back them and they will no longer have equipment nor money or much of anything else, with all hunting them down. Especially with the poor over there knowing they can live most of their lives with that money. All for the physical body of a Terrorist. They'll be finished.

    We can leave the region and stay out of their affairs. Any group like these terrorists would eventually subjugate those around them. Which then.....their ideology doesn't stop them from just hanging out there. They would do what these ones are doing. Expand and consolidate. Then recruit and spread. Then take more land and from other countries weaker than them. Now they make money and govern over those for them. They will need more resources and they will come for them. Plus they know who the one enemy is that can bring them down. Which they would be out for us at any and all times.

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    Re: How foreign fighters are swelling ISIS ranks in startling numbers

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    Whatever helps you sleep at night, bud.
    Meanwhile, the rest of us know the truth: The border is unsecure and Obama doesn't give a ****.
    Obama didn't open the border, if he doesn't give a **** that the border is unsecured, then neither did any president before him.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: How foreign fighters are swelling ISIS ranks in startling numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    "It's America's fault!"
    Did you miss Saudis??
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: How foreign fighters are swelling ISIS ranks in startling numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, that doesnt mean they're not stupid enough to try. Many innocents would die in the provess, not to mention the negative effect such an attack would have on the country as a whole.
    Exhale dude, it will be ok. Jeeeeesus, why are people freaking out over a group of guys with no navy or airforce, And nothing compared to the US Pentagon.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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