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    Re: Adrian Peterson indicted in child injury case in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    I'm not excusing it! I have repeatedly said it was severe. I am only making a distinction between bad parenting (which this appears to be) and criminal abuse (of which I'm not certain). The fact that the child is four does admittedly adds to your side of the debate.

    BTW I don't believe you have ever walked through thick woods or you are disingenuous if you don't believe a thin switch can easily draw blood and leave whelps.
    I think I wrote that I used to be a park ranger and do trail maintenance. And I still ride and hike in the mts and lowlands here. On bare skin yes, ok. But not thru clothes. Perhaps the boy was beaten on his bare skin, I may have missed that.

    Edit: they are 'welts,' not 'whelps.' Those are dogs.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Adrian Peterson indicted in child injury case in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well how far down this rabbit hole do we go? Outlaw spanking all together? NSA parents so we know when they are abusing their kids? Do we extend this to psychological abuse as well? And if so, what becomes illegal and how do we police it?
    I think it is in some countries.

    It may even be in some US states....anyone know?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Adrian Peterson indicted in child injury case in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well how far down this rabbit hole do we go? Outlaw spanking all together? NSA parents so we know when they are abusing their kids? Do we extend this to psychological abuse as well? And if so, what becomes illegal and how do we police it?
    We should draw the line when a 4 year old looks like they have been horsewhipped. This is just common sense. I have 3 kids. I spanked them when they were younger. I never left any marks on them. If there is any role at all for government in terms of families, it is to ensure that kids are not being abused or neglected.
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    Re: Adrian Peterson indicted in child injury case in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I think I wrote that I used to be a park ranger and do trail maintenance. And I still ride and hike in the mts and lowlands here. On bare skin yes, ok. But not thru clothes. Perhaps the boy was beaten on his bare skin, I may have missed that.

    Edit: they are 'welts,' not 'whelps.' Those are dogs.
    Dang, I've been saying that wrong all my life! Thanks for the vocabulary lesson.
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    Re: Adrian Peterson indicted in child injury case in Texas

    Somebody explain to me why it's OK to beat the living hell out of a 4 year old kid but it's the crime of the century to hit a woman? Frankly, although both are reprehensible, beating the child is worse.

    And please will people stop with this asinine 'I got whipped and I turned out fine' crap! I didn't get whipped and I turned out fine. My kids didn't get whipped and they turned out fine. So what?
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    Re: Adrian Peterson indicted in child injury case in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Somebody explain to me why it's OK to beat the living hell out of a 4 year old kid but it's the crime of the century to hit a woman? Frankly, although both are reprehensible, beating the child is worse.

    And please will people stop with this asinine 'I got whipped and I turned out fine' crap! I didn't get whipped and I turned out fine. My kids didn't get whipped and they turned out fine. So what?
    I can't explain it and have been wondering the same thing. What Ray Rice did was terrible. What Adrian Peterson did was worse.

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    Re: Adrian Peterson indicted in child injury case in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    What a friggin dirtbag. I spank my child. This isn't spanking. That is beating/torture. If a person "spanks" their child hard enough to leave welts and scabs, it's beyond spanking at that point. As big as Peterson is, he could probably spank his child one time with his hand on the behind and that would be plenty. Whenever a foreign object is brought into spanking, it isn't spanking anymore IMO. Yes, that includes a belt. Spanking isn't something that should be done daily or even every other day. Spanking is a last resort thing that should be done when a child disobeys an order given by their parent that could result in them being seriously hurt. Example, I have spanked (one hit, with my hand, on the butt) my son for running out from between two cars in a parking lot.

    I spank my kid with a belt. However here is the difference. I wait to cool down before I spank him because I am a big guy like Peterson and I never want to spank him on pure emotion. A lot of guys like Peterson jump on their kid at the peak of frustration. Nothing good ever comes out of that.

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    Re: Adrian Peterson indicted in child injury case in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Somebody explain to me why it's OK to beat the living hell out of a 4 year old kid but it's the crime of the century to hit a woman? Frankly, although both are reprehensible, beating the child is worse.

    And please will people stop with this asinine 'I got whipped and I turned out fine' crap! I didn't get whipped and I turned out fine. My kids didn't get whipped and they turned out fine. So what?
    The people who said it's ok to hit the woman are largely the same people saying it's ok to beat the crap out of your children.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Adrian Peterson indicted in child injury case in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well how far down this rabbit hole do we go? Outlaw spanking all together? NSA parents so we know when they are abusing their kids? Do we extend this to psychological abuse as well? And if so, what becomes illegal and how do we police it?
    I am comfortable with arresting people who beat their children so bad there are scars a week later.

    Peterson is a superstar which is the only reason anyone has hesitated here. The Vikings should just cut him. They already have the highest number of criminal records in the league.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Adrian Peterson indicted in child injury case in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I am comfortable with arresting people who beat their children so bad there are scars a week later.
    Yep. There's a difference between spanking for discipline and a beating. The NFL should be following the standard that every other business and organization follows in this country and I'm not sure why they feel they are exempt from that.
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