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Sarah Palin's Family Allegedly in Alaska House Party Brawl[W:641]

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When they get knocked up at 16 and into brawls at birthday parties, people probably will. Until then, we'll just chuckle at exploits of the Wasilla Hillbillies.

Why, what's the interest in Sarah Palin's family?
The kids aren't running for any type of political office and neither is Sarah Palin for that matter.
 
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No. She cost him the votes that could have kept the race close.

No she didn't. She got him votes he would not have otherwise gotten. She didn't cost him the election. The economy did, and his record. And the turnout for Obama.
 
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When you tap someone to be a VP candidate BECAUSE she is a woman or because of any number of other factors unrelated to the candidates resume, it is very much affirmative action... particularly if the factor is to find a minority (or woman)...

I responding to poster that flat out stated that Palin was not the beneficiary of affirmative action. I submit that such a statement is flat our wrong... Palin was elevated from obscurity to national prominence BECAUSE she is a woman.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/us/politics/30veep.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/08/mccain-palin-vp.html
Steve Schmidt: Putting Palin on the ticket taught me there are worse things than losing « Hot Air

She wasn't obscure to me. I knew who she was.

I don't need the links, thank you.

So the Dems nominated Ferraro only because she was a woman.

Was Obama elevated from obscurity to national prominence because he is a black man?
 
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That twit would bomb Canada.

I assume this was supposed to be funny? I asked a serious question. No sane person thinks she was itching to set off nukes, unless that person is so absurdly partisan that he/she can't see straight.
 
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Rather rhetorical don't you think?

Not at all. Was it the people who got lots of peopple to forget that he was outed as a liar and a plagiarist?
 
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When they get knocked up at 16 and into brawls at birthday parties, people probably will. Until then, we'll just chuckle at exploits of the Wasilla Hillbillies.

I will! You can bet your ass on that! :lamo

And I'm going to laugh my ass off, when you people wet your pants over it! :lamo
 
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When I see the words liar and plagiarist, my first thoughts go to Rand Paul,
a confirmed liar and plagiarist who gets a pass from lamestream media .
 
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She wasn't obscure to me. I knew who she was.

I don't need the links, thank you.

So the Dems nominated Ferraro only because she was a woman.

Was Obama elevated from obscurity to national prominence because he is a black man?

Excellent comparison as they are very similar things. Yes, the Dems nominated Ferraro primarily because she was a woman. Yes, she was also the beneficiary of affirmative action in much the way Palin. The Dems, at the time, needed a Hail Mary (or game changer), just as the Republicans needed it in 2008. Each thought the novelty of a woman would get out the woman's vote. And, just as most Hail Mary's are empty plays, the nominations of Ferraro and Palin came up short... except that Sarah was smart enough to make hay from the opportunity...

I am glad you collected your US governor trading cards so you knew who Palin was... good for you... but no one else did. Thinking the Sarah Palin was prominent in her own right in July 2008 suggests you very much do indeed need the links

Obama "earned" his way on to the ticket by being a US Senator and campaigning for the job. If you recall, he went through months of months of primaries to earn his name recognition. No one just reached out and "tapped" him into national prominence with a single phone call, as they did for Palin.

Oh, yeah... I almost forgot this link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/us/politics/29palin.html?pagewanted=all

"....Senator John McCain astonished the political world on Friday by naming Sarah Palin, a little-known governor of Alaska and self-described “hockey mom” with almost no foreign policy experience, as his running mate on the Republican presidential ticket...."

I particularly like the use of the word "astonished"

Sarah, bless her heart, was quick to capitalize on the move, recognizing it for what it was:

“Hillary left 18 million cracks in the highest, hardest glass ceiling in America, but it turns out the women of America aren’t finished yet, and we can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all,” Ms. Palin said to huge applause.
 
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Excellent comparison as they are very similar things. Yes, the Dems nominated Ferraro primarily because she was a woman. Yes, she was also the beneficiary of affirmative action in much the way Palin. The Dems, at the time, needed a Hail Mary (or game changer), just as the Republicans needed it in 2008. Each thought the novelty of a woman would get out the woman's vote. And, just as most Hail Mary's are empty plays, the nominations of Ferraro and Palin came up short... except that Sarah was smart enough to make hay from the opportunity...

I am glad you collected your US governor trading cards so you knew who Palin was... good for you... but no one else did. Thinking the Sarah Palin was prominent in her own right in July 2008 suggests you very much do indeed need the links

Obama "earned" his way on to the ticket by being a US Senator and campaigning for the job. If you recall, he went through months of months of primaries to earn his name recognition. No one just reached out and "tapped" him into national prominence with a single phone call, as they did for Palin.

Oh, yeah... I almost forgot this link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/us/politics/29palin.html?pagewanted=all

"....Senator John McCain astonished the political world on Friday by naming Sarah Palin, a little-known governor of Alaska and self-described “hockey mom” with almost no foreign policy experience, as his running mate on the Republican presidential ticket...."


I particularly like the use of the word "astonished"

When was the last time a Vice Presidential candidate campaigned for the job?

"No one else" knew who Palin was? Interesting. And factually incorrect.

Senator McCain's pick astonished me because I thought he was going to tap Rob Portman or Tim Pawlenty or another governor, not because he picked Palin. Maybe I'm more astute than other people. I pay attention to this country's governors and read the papers, and yes, her name was in the papers prior to her getting tapped. Cute on the "trading cards" comment, but wrong. It's called paying attention.
 
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I will! You can bet your ass on that! :lamo

And I'm going to laugh my ass off, when you people wet your pants over it! :lamo

Odds are you won't have to worry about your pants, at least not until after Jan 2017. And, by then you'll have Hillary opening up a can of whoop-ass on what's left of the GOP.
 
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When was the last time a Vice Presidential candidate campaigned for the job?

"No one else" knew who Palin was? Interesting. And factually incorrect.

Senator McCain's pick astonished me because I thought he was going to tap Rob Portman or Tim Pawlenty or another governor, not because he picked Palin. Maybe I'm more astute than other people. I pay attention to this country's governors and read the papers, and yes, her name was in the papers prior to her getting tapped. Cute on the "trading cards" comment, but wrong. It's called paying attention.

You are wandering away from the main point: this is not about you. I am sure you are an astute observer (I stand in witness)....

My point is about Palin being an unknown prior to her nomination (note Times article.... I have been looking for name recognition polls on Palin, but I am afraid she was too obscure to poll) and then becoming a "rock star".... widely known, by people that are not astute observers. Her career substantially benefited BECAUSE she was a woman; so picked to be on the platform, and as such is one of the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action in the history of mankind.
 
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You are wandering away from the main point: this is not about you. I am sure you are an astute observer (I stand in witness)....

My point is about Palin being an unknown prior to her nomination (note Times article.... I have been looking for name recognition polls on Palin, but I am afraid she was too obscure to poll) and then becoming a "rock star".... widely known, by people that are not astute observers. Her career substantially benefited BECAUSE she was a woman; so picked to be on the platform, and as such is one of the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action in the history of mankind.

Which VP candidate campaigned for the job? You didn't answer that.

Of course her career benefitted because she was a woman. Just like Obama's did because his father was black. No other obscure state Senators were ever picked to deliver speeches at the conventions. You think that would have happened if he wasn't black?

Unlike Palin, he is also the most powerful man in the world. Care to compare becoming a "rock star" who doesn't hold office with that job due to affirmative action?
 
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I lol at this whole thing.

Here we are in the *Breaking News* MSM forum and the title of the thread reads... "Sarah Palin's Family ALLEGEDLY in Alaska House Party Brawl". Don't get me wrong, I like a good drunken brawl story(alleged) just as much as the next guy but Breaking News MSM? This is nothing more than tabloid fodder and yet it goes on for 75+ pages. 6 years post 2008 and the woman still causes quite a stir.:lol:
 
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Odds are you won't have to worry about your pants, at least not until after Jan 2017. And, by then you'll have Hillary opening up a can of whoop-ass on what's left of the GOP.

OMG, you're cheerleading for Hillary, already? :lamo
 
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Which VP candidate campaigned for the job? You didn't answer that.

Of course her career benefitted because she was a woman. Just like Obama's did because his father was black. No other obscure state Senators were ever picked to deliver speeches at the conventions. You think that would have happened if he wasn't black?

Unlike Palin, he is also the most powerful man in the world. Care to compare becoming a "rock star" who doesn't hold office with that job due to affirmative action?

Well, the 'affirmative action' argument is only valid if there's a qualified alternative applying for the job. McCain/Palin?
 
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Well, the 'affirmative action' argument is only valid if there's a qualified alternative applying for the job. McCain/Palin?

I'm sorry - I have no idea what you're saying here.
 
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I'm sorry - I have no idea what you're saying here.

Um, you were implying that Obama got elected because of 'affirmative action', right? Or did I misread you?
 
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Um, you were implying that Obama got elected because of 'affirmative action', right? Or did I misread you?

If Palin made it as far as she did (from "obscurity") due to AA according to the other poster, then the same applies to Obama. He was also plucked from absolute obscurity.
 
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If Palin made it as far as she did (from "obscurity") due to AA according to the other poster, then the same applies to Obama. He was also plucked from absolute obscurity.

When? When he was named President of the Harvard Law Review? That was pretty much the last time he was in obscurity. His rise seems to have been fast-tracked, much like Kennedy's, but he was in the limelight often along the way.
 
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I think that hits the nail on the head, but I suggest she is far more calculating. People who want to be "regular citizens" do not start their own TV shows. Or self publish how many books now?

She is the foil, the false target that enrages the left, exposes them as misogynistic and close minded and she is not in any way a threat at any ballot box.

Like many woman who have been in power she knows the value of being underestimated and she has been. While all stand agape at Obama for rising from a community organizer to the presidency, she has gone from being an obscure Alaskan politician to being a household word.

To the right, she is the vanguard of old ideas, and lighting rod of fools and there are few better at drawing out fools than she.

She certainly did. Within HOURS of her nomination, Daily Kos had floated the scurrilous rumor that her infant son Trig was actually her grandson. HuffPo did too. Perhaps others remember Erik Sean Nelson's piece "Palin Will Run in 2012 on More Retardation Platform." Later, Wonkette ran a piece so ugly that I still cannot believe how low some people will sink. Wonkette's Trig Palin Post | Ken Layne | Wonkette Editor | Mediaite
 
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No she didn't. She got him votes he would not have otherwise gotten. She didn't cost him the election. The economy did, and his record. And the turnout for Obama.

Maybe so. But I am one vote she lost him. Maybe I'm the only one. I dunno.
 
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OMG, you're cheerleading for Hillary, already? :lamo

I hate Hillary, but the morons in the GOP will ensure she is the next POTUS.
 
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When? When he was named President of the Harvard Law Review? That was pretty much the last time he was in obscurity. His rise seems to have been fast-tracked, much like Kennedy's, but he was in the limelight often along the way.

He was a well known national figure when he was a state Senator, is that what you're saying?

He was tapped as an obscure state Senator to deliver the largest address any Democrat could make, then all of a sudden was qualified to be POTUS. I never mentioned anything about the Harvard Law Review. The conversation I had with another poster was about political offices.
 
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I hate Hillary, but the morons in the GOP will ensure she is the next POTUS.

I may be right, but what is Hillary going to run on?
 
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