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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    That's fine for you.
    But keep in mind that indifference promotes hubris.
    Who is to say that some teammates were not forced to some degree to wear the religious symbols?
    Put your self in the place of one of these kids who may be himself an atheist or who may have objections to the cross as a member of another religion. To NOT wear the cross would make them seem insensitive and and an uncaring team mate. He would have to wear the cross on his helmet to at least appear to be part of the team.
    The athletic department forced that on them at a secular school.
    And if I was part of that team I would have gladly put the cross on my helmet in remembrance of a friend.
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    You did not complete the thought.
    What I am endorsing is an active opposition to religious expression AT A STATE RUN SCHOOL.
    Funny how you chose to omit that part.
    Yes... I would be in favor of removing religious symbols, of any kind, from public land .
    which the SCOTUS has already ruled on and says you can't do that.
    you seem to be missing this major detail.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    And this was expression of his personal religion.
    On a state funded uniform ... making it unconstitutional.

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    If it helps, atheism was endorsed by the empty space next to the cross.
    I don't need endorsement of what I personally believe.
    I don't have that weakness.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Not on the official school uniform.
    The school administration saw that, and acted appropriately and accordingly.
    You are so wrong it isn't funny. the only reason that the school pulled it was because they didn't want to deal with a bunch of babies crying over a cross that the students themselves elected to wear on their own accord.

    what is funny is that these same players had been wearing them for 2 weeks and no one gave a rats rear end. lol.

    the school knew about it and didn't pull them. they didn't want to waste school money of frivilous lawsuits being slammed by people who are so insecure with themselves that the mere sight of a cross causes them to go into a frothing rage.

    even though it violates the constitution.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    which the SCOTUS has already ruled on and says you can't do that.

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    The school's administration saw the folly and unconstitutionality of what was being done. They wisely put an end to it ...
    ...you seem to be missing this major detail

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    The concern is over constitutionally guaranteed freedoms...
    ...not religious symbols.
    religious freedom is a constitutionally protected freedom that includes religious symbols. it also includes freedom of speech which covers those same symbols. again you are wrong.

    what they did is no different than this.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-ch...bible-banners/

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    It's this kind of crap I was talking about:
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    ...and you know that.
    You really should have looked at his attachment then.
    Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    On a state funded uniform ... making it unconstitutional.
    False.


    I don't need endorsement of what I personally believe.
    I don't have that weakness.
    Of course you do. That is why you are here in this thread.
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    The school's administration saw the folly and unconstitutionality of what was being done. They wisely put an end to it ...
    ...you seem to be missing this major detail
    no you didn't read the article. the school stopped it because they didnt' want to deal and spend money on a frivilous lawsuit.
    the players had been wearing the stickers for about 2 weeks.

    so yes you are missing major details. plus the SCOTUS has ruled that students do not give up their constitutional rights when they walk into a campus public or not.
    they have the right to express their freedom of speach or religion anyway they wanted to sports or no sports.

    you are wrong deal with it.

    the school didn't care.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    And expression of religion is explicitly protected by the constitution.
    By an individual...not by a government entity. And cannot be or appear to be endorsed by a government entity.
    Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
    And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
    I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.

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