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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    It's not unconstitutional to force someone to display one particular one?
    Who was forced?
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

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    The players chose to display those crosses, not the school.
    And they neither asked for nor received school permission? Are the players free to display whatever they want, or do they need the school's approval?
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    And they neither asked for nor received school permission? Are the players free to display whatever they want, or do they need the school's approval?
    I don't believe they need the school's permission.
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't believe they need the school's permission.
    And this is based on???? I've never heard of any school allowing players to put whatever they want on their uniforms. I doubt you have, either. So why do you think this school is different?
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't believe they need the school's permission.
    They had permission until the possibility of a complaint was raised and the school got nervous..

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    It's not unconstitutional to force someone to display one particular one?
    Who was forced to display the cross? And by whom?
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    No it's not a private entity. It is a state-owned school.


    Is it freedom of? If the only way they can wear the crosses is specific approval by the school, then it's not freedom of religion. And the majority can not be given special rights that don't equally apply to the minority.

    If the school had the rule that players could put whatever they wanted (as long as it was not obscene or offensive etc) then there would be no issues with the crosses.
    So show the rules.
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Who was forced to display the cross? And by whom?
    Any team member who had to wear a helmet with a cross on it. They had no choice in the matter. There was no crossless helmet option, and even if there had been, peer pressure is an enormous factor. Whoever permitted the crosses be put on the team's helmets forced all of the team to comply. The reverse of the OP in fact.
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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Any team member who had to wear a helmet with a cross on it. They had no choice in the matter. There was no crossless helmet option, and even if there had been, peer pressure is an enormous factor. Whoever permitted the crosses be put on the team's helmets forced all of the team to comply. The reverse of the OP in fact.
    Where's your evidence that any team member was force, against his will, contrary to his beliefs, to display a cross on his helmet?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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