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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    C'mon that is total nonsense considering every religion has all races, so how could such a statement be true?

    If you want to interchange "racism" with "bias" then maybe that quote would make some sort of sense.
    Many use quotes in order to suggest their own wisdom, even if these quotes, on reflection, are rather foolish. And it's more impressive if the person being quoted has three names.

    I like to quote Albert Einstein because there is less possibility of being challenged, as well as suggesting I travel in a highly knowledgeable fraternity.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    If these kids' civil rights were violated as you claim...then the Constitution allows for redress of grievance.

    They can ask the university to reconsider. They can ask a judge for injunction. They can file civil rights suits against the university.

    The university did what it believed was proper...If the student[s] remain moot, then no rights were violated.
    Why should something as trivial as this have to be settled through the courts, or petitions have to be made to the higher ups. Has it really come to the point where people have to go to a court to see if their rights are being violated, that common sense can't prevail?

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why should something as trivial as this have to be settled through the courts, or petitions have to be made to the higher ups. Has it really come to the point where people have to go to a court to see if their rights are being violated, that common sense can't prevail?
    There is nothing trivial about rights. I have no problem with the students accepting and abiding by the decision of the university and just play ball.

    I do have a problem with some people wanting everyone to be amicable with their decisions based on their beliefs instead of the law.


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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Many use quotes in order to suggest their own wisdom, even if these quotes, on reflection, are rather foolish. And it's more impressive if the person being quoted has three names.

    I like to quote Albert Einstein because there is less possibility of being challenged, as well as suggesting I travel in a highly knowledgeable fraternity.
    I like quoting Einstein too. A lot of his non-science/math related quotes were more philosophical, innocent and non-political. A lot of them are metaphors of observation.

    Then again Einstein claimed he viewed life as a child would so it's understanding.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    If these kids' civil rights were violated as you claim...then the Constitution allows for redress of grievance.

    They can ask the university to reconsider. They can ask a judge for injunction. They can file civil rights suits against the university.

    The university did what it believed was proper...If the student[s] remain moot, then no rights were violated.
    The kids not making a stand doesn't mean their civil rights weren't violated.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    There is nothing trivial about rights. I have no problem with the students accepting and abiding by the decision of the university and just play ball.

    I do have a problem with some people wanting everyone to be amicable with their decisions based on their beliefs instead of the law.
    Didn't the students lose their right to put a cross on their helmet after it was approved by the athletic department? Is this something that should rise to the level of having to go to court? This is a smallness of mind that is destroying the country.

    It's also noteworthy of the laws some people care to enforce while willingly ignoring others.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I like quoting Einstein too. A lot of his non-science/math related quotes were more philosophical, innocent and non-political. A lot of them are metaphors of observation.

    Then again Einstein claimed he viewed life as a child would so it's understanding.
    I made that post as sort of a joke but, at the risk of sounding pretentious, i'm coincidentally reading a book by Einstein now called "Out of My Later Years".

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Didn't the students lose their right to put a cross on their helmet after it was approved by the athletic department? Is this something that should rise to the level of having to go to court? This is a smallness of mind that is destroying the country.

    It's also noteworthy of the laws some people care to enforce while willingly ignoring others.
    [emphasis added by bubba]
    you obviously misunderstand
    there is no right for a student to affix any emblem on the playing helmet of the state university
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The kids not making a stand doesn't mean their civil rights weren't violated.
    Exactly. They will stay silent because their positions are at risk. Perhaps this issue can be visited later but, meanwhile, the pettiness in all of this is staggering. What a joyless lot of people they are.

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    Re: Football team forced to remove crosses from helmets

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I made that post as sort of a joke but, at the risk of sounding pretentious, i'm coincidentally reading a book by Einstein now called "Out of My Later Years".
    I believe I have read that book many years ago - or at least I read a book about his later years, I just don't remember the name because it was like 10 years ago and have probably read like 300-400 books since then.

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